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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:06 AM
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Even if AWOL is DECLARED the winner, do NOT despair
We have TEAMS of lawyers in place, suspression and irregularities CAN be proven.

Do NOT be discouraged if the corporate media 'declares' this election for AWOL.

We WILL prevail.

We HAVE been preparing for this for MONTHS.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:08 AM
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:08 AM
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3. Pardon my candor
but BULL FUCKING SHIT
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BBG Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 AM
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6. um Yeah
what you said
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 AM
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7. NO
fraud is illegal, and it will NOT be tolerated


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 AM
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8. bullshit. are you a freep ? nt
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 AM
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9. Go Away troll
RL
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:11 AM
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11. Oh please, go back to whence you came!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:12 AM
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:24 AM
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22. Oh please..
There is nothing we have in common. I'm not going to 'pull together' with these bastards, the divide gets deeper and deeper every day.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:12 AM
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15. BULLSHIT!
THis is too important to roll over again.

The country CAN take litgation - it can't take another 4 years of these criminals and thugs in charge.

Liked the last four? We ain't seen nothin' folks!

I want us to fight for every fucking vote!
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:13 AM
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16. No, goddamn it. If it was FIXED, it MUST be FOUGHT!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:08 AM
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2. True! Is Kerry read to *NOT* concede if he doesn't look like he won
tonight?

I hope he's ready to fight it out and not declare defeat.

david
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:09 AM
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4. He better fight this if he loses, no more bullshit like four years
ago, they declared war and Kerry needs to fight the fight he says he is capable of.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:36 AM
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34. Kerry is a career politician--expect no bitter post-election fight
Stop dreaming.

If the numbers favor Bush, Kerry will fold up camp and that will be that. Game over. He'll congratulate Bush, and all of this "fight! fight!" talk can be left to the true believers.

How did the Dems act during the first four years of Bush? Tax cuts, Patriot Act, Afghanistan, Iraq... From this record we can project what will happen in what looks like it could be the next four years of Bush.

It's disgusting.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:09 AM
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5. You are so right
No immediate concession speech tonight, not for weeks.

We will fight for every inch this time.
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Typecast Modulator Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:11 AM
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10. That's the attitude to have.
We cannot let them walk all over us.
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:12 AM
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12. If it's close, he better not concede...
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:12 AM
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14. We will NOT accept ANOTHER election stolen from us !
THE FIGHT HAS JUST BEGUN !
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:14 AM
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17. I'm with you all the way
Anyone who's proud to call themselves a Democrat and rolls over for these thugs will deserve the horrors of four more years with Dubya. And yes, dear young right wing jack booted thugs, that includes a draft. :P
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AMD_CPU Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:17 AM
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18. At what cost?
If * is ahead by a couple of million votes in the total count, and holds a respectable lead in the electoral college, and we try to fight this out in the courts in any meaningful way (like enough to change the result, which would take months), come 2006 we're going to have trouble getting a Democrat elected dogcatcher.

Futile resistance in the face of overwhelming odds (we don't know where we stand odds-wise yet) could have the very real effect of destroying us in the long run.

Let's see where we stand before we start screaming "send in the lawyers". It's premature right now.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:20 AM
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19. No it is not premature
We have seen their tactics before.

Too many places used vote stealing machines.

We will fight to the end. This will not result in us not being able to get a dem elected as dogcatcher. This will show the world we are not rolling over and allowing our country to be stolen by lawless gangs of rethuglicans. That kind of sticking to principle earns respect, it doesn't lose it.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:26 AM
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I can't agree with your view
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:26 AM by FizzFuzz
If * is ahead by a couple mill votes....

Your comment would be valid if the voting machines were legit, but its indisputable fact they are not.

Don't let the hugeness of the lie shut us up. (remember Hitler? Lie and lie big the people will believe any lie if its BIG enough)
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:44 AM
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40. Cost? Count the dead in MY family before you talk to ME about COST! nt
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:22 AM
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20. Welcome to the Corporate Theocratic States of America
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:23 AM by WillW
If Bush pulls this off, everything I was taught growing up about what it means to live in a democratic society will have been thrown out the window.

We've got war pigs and bible thumping fascists at the helm. Short of a revolution, I'm not sure things will ever be the same.

Dos Vidaniya Sashaw. It's been nice knowing you.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:23 AM
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21. How true
Sad but true...we've just watched the future and it's not pretty:(
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:25 AM
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23. NO QUARTER NO SURRENDER
this is a war
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:26 AM
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24. Your damned right it is. /eom
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:27 AM
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25. It all boils down to...
do we let corruption overrule democracy?
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:28 AM
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26. That's a good question.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:28 AM by WillW
And if we say no, how do we fight it? Apparently, voting doesn't count for shit anymore.
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Shutterbug Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:29 AM
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28. Heck
If we started another civil war we would at least have more backing internationally than Bush has.

The pisser is, that we can't even hope that some psycho comes out and shoots him, because that would just leave us with D!ck and we all know he has been the one calling the shots all along anyway. ]:)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:28 AM
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27. It won't work, we MUST GET OHIO
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:42 AM
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37. BS ! We will contest OHIO until 2008 ! NAZI REPUG TACTICS !
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:31 AM
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29. at the start of the day
we had this in our pockets. a new day for america. no, the irrationalists look to be frightfully prominent at this point. i wonder whether it's worth winning at all. let the country implode. buy your popcorn, the apocalypse is nye. we've done what we could. we prayed, hoped, aspired, remembered what we were taught about the great USA and hoped to live up to our word to all our people. . . . now, god guns gays and a fascist in my face. that's what my country is all about today. . . . what if kerry carries OH? is this jackass country governable?

forgive us, world.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:35 AM
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31. Well Said. USA=Biggest collection of morons ever assembled..
onto a single continent. That's what this election seems to be revealing.

Go on consumers. Buy your cheap shit manufactured in sweatshops in foriegn countries, so that you can continue to live on the pittance wages the conservanazis pay you. Americans... unbelievable.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:31 AM
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30. Im not desparing, that idiot will never be my president, I have
yet to think of him in that vein even once nor will I ever, he is a theif, liar and a murderer, wife abuser to name a few and deserves not one ounce of my loyalty. As far as those who have dared to vote for him, it's going to be hard since I live with a Bush supporter to show any respect for them ever again, the only thing that saves his ass at this point is that he didn't vote, he knew better...

This is another lie perpetrated by Rove and company once again, he is only a man, and as such can be brought down, I suggest when Kerry wins that he is to be one of the first to be taken off his pedastal, unity my ass with this bunch, prison time and nothing more do they deserve...
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:35 AM
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32. i agree,
if we win, NO PARDONS, prison and hard time is what they deserve. of course this should be prosecuted after putting together the strongest most ironclad case . . . so as to educate the morAns of murka . . . their chimp made 'em chumps.
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:35 AM
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33. AMEN!
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:36 AM
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35. FUCK BUSH, WE MUST FIGHT
WE CAN'T FUCKIN STAND ANOTHER 4 YEARS AND ANOTHER STOLEN ELECTION!!! WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE REPUBLICAN NAZI PARTY!!!
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:38 AM
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36. RIGHT FUCKIN NOW
If i knew who to fight i'd fight right fucking now.

please,God do you have miracle for us?
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no one in particular Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:42 AM
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38. This is MY country, I will never give up.
Bush or no Bush, I will not surrender. I ain't leaving.

I have two kids and I owe it to them and future generations to continue the fight.

They'll take the fight from me from my cold, dead hands.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:43 AM
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39. I'm with you ...
We have fellow Democratic Patriots here and in our Local Communities. Never give up :-)
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:04 AM
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41. What gets me is all the people here expressing hatred of their fellow
Americans, instead of the illegitimate regime that lied, decieved, and obstructed its way to the current electoral count.

Don't shoot us. Shoot at the bad guys.

When other nations, some far worse off than we are today, found themselves governed by a tyrant that couldn't be unseated through the ballot box, they got rid of the tyrant by taking to the streets.

Remember from your civics class: democracy is a whole lot more than who collects the most votes. If it was, then Joe Stalin would have to be the biggest democrat ever. Democracy is a system, built around free speech, a free press, civil liberties, and minority rights, as well as the ballot box.

It is our responsibility to ourselves, to our families, and to the world to defend American democracy, by any means necessary. To do any less is to condemn to death many innocents of this nation, the innocents of this world, and perhaps even life on earth itself.

Let me add here that I'm not advocating violent revolution -- there are plenty of other, far more civil, forms of resistance, and there's great potential for help from the international community.
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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:16 AM
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42. NICE
i want that to be true. we're morons tho.
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Algomas Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:54 AM
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43. Where can I get a "Impeach Bush" sticker?
I guess this means that now the other (real) world out there, will hate the American people just as much as they hate our government.
As a response, the global financial market could cripple us with the Euro and/or boycott our bond issues, throwing us into a depression.
Our empire in free-fall. It could get fugly people....
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