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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:15 AM
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Let's fight back against the media (This is my plan)
Can we organize a group of people in each state to hand out flyer's in front of media outlets? What I have in mind is that we could print up a small pamphlet or flier showing that the media is refusing to cover "Voter-gate".

In the flyer's we could provide links to websites, information on how the boxes were rigged, the Bush computer software connection, who owns the media channels that are feeding them news, etc. etc. etc.

We could position the groups in front of every media outlet and let them hand out flyer's right in front of every radio & TV station, newspaper and any other news organizations.

I believe the American People needs to find out about what our country is doing to them and how the media is going along with Bush's tactics.

We might be able to start turning some heads around to our cause and we would let people who don't know what's happening know about all of this.

We need to shine a light on the tactics of the media and how they are suppressing information from the public.

We need to take our country back and the media has to change. If we don't do something we will be suffering the consequences in the future.

Let's organize something of this nature please! :hug:
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:19 AM
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1. I'm in NYC and I would definitely do this
How do we consolidate all the information into Cliff's Notes, though?
Is anybody good at this type of thing?
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:25 AM
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2. Can you imagine if we stood in front of the TV Stations
While they were having their morning shows and we stood right in front of the window with signs?

(I am half asleep so my wording on my message might now make sense but I hope that everyone can get the jest of it)
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:33 AM
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3. I think we'd be shuttled out if we had signs
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 05:34 AM by TODAY
Unless one side had like some bullshit birthday message on it and as they panned over we flipped it. Someone could also pretend to be having an anniversary or something and when they came for the sound byte slipped this URL or bbv into the message. The only problem of course is then they have our faces. Also, I doubt those crowds are going to be particularly receptive but it's certainly worth a shot.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:40 AM
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4. Yes I have been suggesting this for MONTHS
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 05:41 AM by Carolab
We need to get people ONTO THE NET

There are lots of people who are freaked out by computers and do NOT know what's going on in the blogosphere

They barely know how to turn their computers on

It seems that it might be better to organize community meetings--at schools or something--to get people out and understand how to use browsers, enter addresses, do searches, etc. Make them understand the power of the net as an information source

There could be teaser flyers that would provide some real news summaries followed by links to sites: For more information, visit: blackboxvoting.org, etc.

The headline could be something like--things you won't find on the mainstream media--or get off the junk news diet...

I have been working with a neighbor I met through GOTV in my precinct and she and I have put out a few e-mail newsletters. But REALLY you need to encourage people to just jump in and start PHISHING

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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:43 AM
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5. Not everybody has access to the web or easy access anyway
Could we get some sort of maybe weekly newspaper together? I'd pick up a paper route.

I've been really disappointed by The Voice not being all over this.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:58 PM
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10. it would be good to plug into the existing infrastructure
for one, there is The Indypendent (the Indymedia publication)

For two, did you know that ANY Manhattan resident is eligible to make programs that will air on MNN? usually slots are assigned in advance, but the guy who runs MNN, Michael Eisenmanger is a radical, involved man concerned with social justice and has spent many years working with Paper Tiger (which airs weekly on MNN).

There ARE public resource, they just need to be plugged into.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:11 PM
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13. You are right
Like your idea too.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:47 AM
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6. Organizing is not my forte
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 05:54 AM by GingerSnaps
I have been trying to get a march on the media since Bush stole the last election. I also want to get a black out all media outlets for a couple of months as a protest by cutting off the money that they get from us every month. We can put a dent in their pockets and the only way to get through to Repugs is to take away some of their cash from them. If we cut off services and stopped their propaganda newspapers then they would take notice.

(I am so sleepy right now I hope that I am making sense)
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samfish Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:47 AM
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7. What I would do...
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 06:50 AM by samfish
Is make a flyer that condenses some of the more irrefutable evidence into sentences (ex: In Florida, there was a 700% increase in the number of Democrats voting Republican compared to 2000; A Voting machine in Ohio gave Bush 4000 extra votes), maybe even put a sample of the exit poll irregularities on it (like one from Wisconson and one from, say, New Hampshire).
Then list some more of the oddities like the fact that, so far, every voting glitch has in some way benefitted Bush.

I wouldn't, however, mention voter supression because on whole, I don't think that really panned out. People are more likely to kinda roll their eyes at that at this point...sadly.

And, of course, a big head line. Nothing partisan, though, like "BUSH CHEATED!!!". That'll automatically turn off about 1/2 your potential readers (9/10 of which'll throw out the flyer anyhow). We'd be better off with a headline like, "EVIDENCE OF FRAUD MOUNTS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION".
Thats kind of a crappy headline, but I'm sure we could think of something snappier.
I'd say it's also more important to say "Presidential Election", rather than just election.
"Mounts", too. Because thats one of those sily words they use to make things seem a lot more important than they really are :D

At the bottom, you'd have to have a URL to a site (make sure it stands out!!!) with a list of links to stories. The URL would have to be simple, so even an idiot could figure out how to get there. I would also argue that said URL should appear...balanced. Meaning we don't send them to WhatReallyHappened.com or even DemocraticUnderground.com.
Those kind of names suggest bias and even conspiracy to the average person, I'd wager.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:51 PM
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8. Good Idea
I want us to stand right out in front of media outlets so that it will show that what we are fighting against is our freedom of information.

"Bush Cheated" would definitely get the attention. We also have to make a statement about repression so that people will start to think about what is happening to our country.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:14 PM
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14. on the right track
Money is all they care about. Their credibility is all they have to sell. Destroy it and you hurt them in the pocket book when people literally won't buy it anymore.
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tbuddha Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:57 PM
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9. We need NYers help more than ever!!
If you are in New York the media part is mainly up to you. Protesting outside news studios and handing out flyers is great. I like the idea of a sign outside the window of the Today show. When MSNBC would braodcast in NY I noticed the crowd was overwhemingly for Kerry. Where are you guys now?

We've got the proof, the analysis part has gone a long way.

We got recounts going in NH and Ohio with maybe more to come. Now we need more attention in the media. If you live in NY, HELP!!
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:01 PM
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11. people, don't reinvent the wheel, USE your community media, public access!
ANY community member in any state can get programming on their public access channel. If you don't know how to make something yourself, usually your local indymedia will have resources to help you. Your tax dollars are paying for it, so use it!!! Public access is a great resource for progressive programming that is available at a grassroots level around the country.

(a good organizatoin to check out is the national Alliance for Community Media; there may be people already trying to organize something like this in your community).
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tbuddha Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:16 PM
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15. Public Access is a great idea!!
We need a national coordinated effort on this. Could we use donations to buy the same time slots across the country and then advertise on AirAmerica? THAT would get the media's attention.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:27 PM
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18. there are organizations that deal with this.
There is, like I mentioned, Alliance for Community Media. Great, progressive group.

Also you don't need to BUY slots on public access. That is the beauty of it. It is FREE to any taxpaying community member.

Here is a list of some public access outlets and organizations, taken from the website of an organization I work for, Deep Dish TV.

http://www.deepdishtv.org/pages/publicaccess.htm
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:16 PM
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16. No
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 03:18 PM by indigo11153
This is a good thing but it won't work. Going around the media is a long term plan. Going straight at them is the way to go.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:25 PM
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17. what do you mean AROUND the media? it IS the media
there is infrastructure and technology already in place. by all means PROTEST the mainsream media but also use resorces that exist. My reply was mostly directed at people who were, like, we need to make our own newspaper/media.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:40 PM
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19. Agree
This is something we need but local cable is no threat to the big media alone.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:46 PM
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21. right, but it's a way to get information out to people
so that they can understand why we are protesting. The two efforts can dovetail nicely with each other.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:49 PM
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22. Yes
This is war and should be run as a campaign. We need to come at them from all sides and build a team to do it.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:09 PM
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12. Protesting the media works
They don't like it one bit. Got to make sure you have your facts right though or they will eat you alive.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:46 PM
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20. Ya know
Maybe we need a DU group. Something combining the media with activism?
A place where we can build and excute a national plan. Anyone like this idea?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:18 PM
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25. Maybe go to the state forums
and post it--ask everyone to get together in local areas and organize it
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:55 PM
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23. Fliers would be great and I would think would attract media...
attention, and if it were timed properly, a tsunami of e-mails to the whole world would put it over the top!!!
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:59 PM
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24. Big picture thinking
I like it:thumbsup:
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