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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:56 PM
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What I don't understand about Warren County
In NJ both parties have the right to have people at the polls at all times, including after the closing of the polls while the votes are totalled. In fact, at each voting precinct there MUST be a Republican and a Democrat present and they MUST be present when the votes are totalled. This is true no matter who holds political control of a precinct or a county.

So, for there to be fraud when Warren County locked down I would also have to assume there were no Democrats present. Is that correct? If so, how can that be? It makes no sense to me that any state would have a law that excludes one of the parties completely when votes are counted.

Does anyone really know?
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:06 PM
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1. At the precinct level there are 2 republicans and 2 democrats
The ballots are counted and taken to the BoE for vote counting. Yes there were some democrats that were there during the counting and I am in no way criticizing the work they did there but they were counting paper ballots and absentee ballots in different rooms and I don't think there were enough Dems there to be able to detect if someone was trying to covertly adjust the numbers IMHO.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:10 PM
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2. I read an article
It was written by a man named Troxler and printed in the St. Pete Times. He was glossing over various voting issues and Warren County was one. He said the story wasn't worth persuing because there was a Democrat in the room who didn't notice any wrong doing.

Why must today's reporters be so lazy? These people said they had a face-to-face meeting with people claiming to be FBI agents, but the FBI denies it. That's a story right there, IMO.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:12 PM
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3. I still want to know

Whether anyone thinks this was just a case of some local nutjobs or whether Warren county could have had some special strategic significance in the whole Ohio KITV/STV scam.

Anyone have a clue? An idea?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 07:04 PM
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9. Magicians and Politicians both operate the same way.......
.......by the art of misdirection. :evilgrin:

Keep the attention focused where you want the audience to look while you do the "magic" out of their sight. Just a hunch but I believe that this may have been purposely done to distract attention from other more sinister, less obvious fixes. When all is said and done, I bet the count here is fairly accurate and the cry of "I told you so!" is relentlessly echoed by elections officials and the press.



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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:16 PM
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4. Exactly! And the FBI and Homeland Security said that they never made
a call to that precinct. Somebody just commited a felony by impersonating an FBI agent! I want to know why are there no inquiries to find out about this? But, as I understood it, no one was allowed when the lockdown happened and the ballots were counted. That's where I'm getting confused! Actually, no one, not even the press, was allowed to watch while the ballots were counted!

An inquiry and an arrest could possibly lead to a whistleblower of some kind on the higher up Repuketards and (possibly) the WH, or at least KKKarl Rove!
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:44 PM
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8. We need Soros or another wealthy benefactor to put rewards out
for info on fraud in this election. Or should we set up an online pool?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:19 PM
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5. Anyone could be "on the take" regardless of party affiliation
I'm not saying the dems at the Warren County BoE were. Everyone has to go to the bathroom sometime.
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ahimsa Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:24 PM
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6. If that's true...
..then how did that one precinct manage to have thousands of extra votes that were only noticed when someone from DU (I think) happened to analyze the results on the web site? Didn't anyone bother to look at them before posting them?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:38 PM
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7. Probably someone without a clue just there for the money
Poll workers usually get paid, consist of seniors with nothing else to do who want to make maybe 100 bucks for the day.
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