Recount in Ohio -- thank you, Greens!!

[Sparkly]

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1115-06.htm

WASHINGTON -- November 15 -- There will be a recount of the presidential vote in Ohio.

On Thursday, David Cobb, the Green Party’s 2004 presidential candidate, announced his intention to seek a recount of the vote in Ohio. Since the required fee for a statewide recount is $113,600, the only question was whether that money could be raised in time to meet the filing deadline. That question has been answered.

“Thanks to the thousands of people who have contributed to this effort, we can say with certainty that there will be a recount in Ohio,” said Blair Bobier, Media Director for the Cobb-LaMarche campaign.

[liberal al zib]

1. The Greens can

ask for a recount within five days of the certification of election results which is Dec/1st according to Ohio election law (go to the Ohio secretary of state to find this law) . The electors will meet on Dec/13 to cast their votes.
First there is no guarantee what so ever that the Greens will be granted a recount.
Second if they grant the Greens a recount they do not have time to count all the state of Ohio in less than 12 days (between Dec/1st and Dec/13th).

[Sparkly]

2. Why isn't 12 days enough time?

Seems to me it ought to be.

And for what reason would they be denied a recount?

[liberal al zib]

10. Because

it will be tied up by Republicans law suits.

[Sparkly]

12. So you think if the state agrees (and why wouldn't it), they'll go to USSC

again and try to get the federal court to interfere with the state's decision again?? I'm not sure they could get away with that again.

[Shalom]

3. The Recount IS Worth It, One Way or Another

If the recount proves that Bushitler stole another election, it's worth it regardless of whether it can tip the election.

Even if it fails to unseat Bushitler, there's a chance he will be recognized at a lying, fraudulent, cold-blooded Fascist for the next four years. And that's worth it.

[Kerry in 04]

4. Thank you greens!!!!!!!

[Hobbes199]

14. Hear, Hear!

[Pab Sungenis]

6. And if the recount isn't finished in time, and comes out in Kerry's favor

...we would have legitimate cause to challenge the electoral votes in January, and I doubt even the Republicans would stop it. (Especially since it wouldn't change the result of the election, but it would make the case clear.)

[EST]

5. Tain't just greens!

Thanks goes to everyone who contributed to this mighty effort!

[KnowerOfLogic]

7. Greens, Nader, and Libertarians are putting dems to shame.

I haven't heard a single top democrat voice one iota of concern over the very real possiblity of election fraud.

[Eurobabe]

8. yeah it's pretty disgusting. Welcome to DU btw...

:hi:

[rodeodance]

16. me either!!!!!!!

[John Q. Citizen]

9. The Dems are laying low because of necessity.

The Repubs have no target as long as the Dem's lay low. This is the best of all worlds, given the situation, for all concerned.

[Avalux]

17. Because the CAN'T

Imagine what would happen if Kerry was spearheading the recount - media mess, Republicans screaming "sore loser". Don't think because we haven't heard anything they aren't silently working in the background.

[luaptifer]

18. Think Kerry Is Not Involved In This Fight?, Think Again.

Think Kerry Is Not Involved In This Fight?, Think Again.


INSIDE THE ELECTION FRAUD BATTLE

(i just posted the whole article at the link above so you might wanna check it out. but i didn't mention one thing in my earlier post of the 'preface' immediately following. that was, in communications i mention, the general idea of another rove-reamjob ala 'memogate' is EXACTLY what is not needed right now. the poster who talked about dems 'laying low gives repubs no target' has the right idea i think! could you imagine the mess if kerry's teams was out in front leading on this and we had another blowup? not only would it be embarrassing once again but it would absolutely serve to undermine legitimacy of any investigation. no way they can let that occur.

apologies if it's already been posted, hadn't seen it here yet. and, fwiw, in trying to make connections between online activists and those who can make things happen once a clear basis exists, i've had a couple communications with folks who indicate that there's much more happening in deep water that doesn't show ripples at the surface. i take heart from that!)



Think Kerry Is Not Involved In This Fight? Think Again. Also: Fallujah = Operation Distract From Fixed Election.


by Betsy R. Vasquez


NOVEMBER 10, 2004 – When Senator John Kerry (D-MA) talked about how his policy would be different in Iraq, he kept saying, in effect, ‘It’s the how, stupid.’ He said repeatedly he would fight a “smarter” war.

Flash forward to today. Following the election, there was a problem apparent. The exit polling didn't match the ballot count, and many reasons for that began to become apparent.

John Kerry was faced with three options. One, fight on publicly rather than conceding and put the nation into a media frenzied limbo. Two, concede and go on with his life, turning his back on his promise to his supporters to ensure that “every vote will be counted.”

Most people are assuming that John Kerry opted for the second of these while John Edwards, his runningmate, opted for the first, and since Kerry was the big dog, he won out. But people who think this are thinking in Bush terms, all or nothing, either you are for the war or against it, that either Senator Kerry was for recounting the votes or he was against it...


SEE REST OF ARTICLE AT LINK ABOVE

[Mister K]

11. I am curious....

When the recount in Ohio is performed and IF Kerry is shown to be the winner, how will the Greens be thanked by Kerry?

Is there a cabinet position available?

[Hobbes199]

13. That would be something...

A Dem in the presidency, Greens in the cabinet.

[PeterPan]

15. the greens will be thanked

with a president that accepts that global warming exists, have vowed to apply the genevation conventions to all prisoners, opposes star wars and the development of new nuclear weapons systems, publically stated that he would not establish permanent military bases in iraq, would not support a constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage nor seek to overturn roe v. wade, and from the departure of paul wolfowitz, donald rumsfeld, dick cheney, etc.

seems like a pretty great deal to me!

[Kellis]

19. kick

:kick:

Thank God for true Americans!!

[Gyre]

20. I'll be thanking the Greens

by joining their political party, ASAP.

Gyre