Question for Application Developers / Programers ???

[libertypirate]

If the boxes are rigged why wouldn't they use a custom common component or library?
One library could be used as base vote manipulation component in all the different systems.

I was looking at the GEM's Software and found these

04/16/2002 01:11 PM 909,312 GX5050R.dll
06/18/2002 09:09 AM 2,117,632 og90as.dll

Something I thought was strange is og90as.dll was originally named GX900R.DLL.

The company http://www.mainsoft.com website that produced the libraries...

And very weird...

http://www.mainsoft.com/corporate/exec_profiles.html

Yaacov Cohen
President and Chief Executive Officer

He also served as a Software Engineer at the Israeli Navy Computer Center after graduating cum laude from the Technion Israeli Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in computer engineering.

Philippe Cohen
Vice President, Products
Cohen graduated cum laude from the Technion Israeli Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Engineering; he completed his first year of academic study at the Pierre & Marie Curie University, Paris VI, where he graduated suma cum laude DEUG.

Eyal Alaluf
Vice President, Technology

After graduating with dual degrees in mathematics and computer science from the Hebrew University in Israel, Alaluf joined the Israel Defense Forces and worked as a software developer in the Israeli Navy where he was involved in creating advanced technologies and research.

[NJGeek]

1. Depending on how the applicaitons are configured

the scenario you describe would be possible. I'm not sure about Mainsoft's involvement, they are a Windows/J2EE interoperability vendor from what I've heard.

GX505 and GX900R sound like graphics libraries to me.

[libertypirate]

5. They are grid libraries, I am assuming like a datagrid

[dbonds]

2. It is possible

but at runtime the dll would need to be renamed to what the application expected. Also it would have to be in a directory that was listed in the PATH environment variable before the other one. The two files could not be in the same directory. On win98 systems there was a quickview tool that you could see the routines inside the DLLs, you could do a comparison with that to see if they are the same.

[dbonds]

4. But don't forget about the .jar files

Those are java archive files that contain classes. Using the same trick as before you could have the same class in two different .jar files. Then have one in the CLASSPATH before the other one only on election day. It could even be set to delete itself on the next boot with the RunOnce registry variable.

There is Java on the GEMS system.

[libertypirate]

8. All inclusive dll, with the added republican bonus pack

They all go in the win\system folder... No path problem.

That tool would be nice... I would like to... but routine names could be deceptive.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. DLLs are "tracked" in the Registry

So a DLL would be a very "naked" way of manipulating votes.

On the other hand, the voting machines have not been subject to scrutiny, and if someone just went hacking around in one, there would be trouble with the Law, which in those districts using GEMS machines would strongly tend to be Republican.

But the whole story is staring to emerge. I'm sure it will be messy and the programmers' part of the crime will eventually be well-known.

At least enough for the next generation of scammers to do better.

--bkl

[dbonds]

6. Dynamically loaded DLLs don't show up in registry

Only the registerred ones do. And to pull off a DLL overload it would have to be dynamic.

[sabra]

7. What's so weird about their profiles?

[libertypirate]

9. Weird??? Profiles???? Your Kidding right????

[sabra]

10. No I am not...

Are you referring to them being Israeli?

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[sabra]

12. I am not being defensive

Just wanted clarity in what your point was. Being an Israeli American, who is also a computer programmer, I wanted to see where you were going with this.

Maybe I could use some connections, and get more info from them?

>> Um you don't steal the most powerful possition in the world with duct tape and bailing wire. It takes well trained individuals.

The sad thing is that reports from Dr. Avi Rubin and Bev Harris show that even a trained monkey could change an entry in a file, that could drastically change the results.