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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:56 AM
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Is there any way to check for people Voting Twice (Florida Snowbirds?)
I suspect that if you were a Republican who owned houses in both New York and Florida, or Michigan and Florida, as so many do, that there would be a big temptation to vote in both places, since there is not likely to be anyone checking you.

If you own houses in both places, over the years you may have registered to vote in one place then the other and not necessarily cancelled the old one. (Is that done automatically across state lines? I don't think so..)

While looking at the graphs of Florida counties showing large increases in Republican vote without a proportional increase in Democratic vote, particular in beach communities, I found myself wondering whether many of these new Bush votes came from Republicans who realized that their vote in Florida might be critical to the election. A little encouragement from their party might have caused a substantial shift. Is there any way to cross-check voter rolls?

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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:01 AM
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1. I'm sure there is...
Before the election, the Columbus Dispatch ran a story where they crosschecked Franklin County registrations with other states and they found dozens of people registered here and in other states like NY and FL. I suspect that to do such an analysis you would need to obtain all of the lists in question from SoS or BOE offices and perform the analysis. Hardly a trivial task but one that I think there should be a federal board to perform.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:12 AM
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2. I'm sure double voters from 2 states splits evenly dem/rep.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:13 AM
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3. Palm Beach County
Twelve people in BBC have already been charged for voting twice (once by absentee or early voting and once in the general election). Unfortunately, they are all registered Democrats.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:45 PM
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7. Well that was an idiotic thing for them to do,
and they should be charged.

Do you have a link? I've seen the article but I don't remember the part where they were all Democrats.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:43 PM
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4. You don't just have to worry about the snow birds.
The method that we use here in Florida is just ripe for abuse. Every county has their own registry. They leave it up to the voter to register when they move. And then the new county is suppose to contact the old county to tell them so they can drop the registration. But Florida is a very transient state. People can move two or three times between major elections. So in the old county (two addresses ago) you may still be on their registries because the new county was given your LAST place of residence. Not the last two.

It's a mess. Then you have Republican operatives calling EVERYONE in both registries. They're confusing everyone, especially if they're sending out absentee ballots out helter skelter.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:51 PM
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5. My fundy-freak cousin and his fundy-freak wife own a house
in IL and one in AZ. I've often wondered if they vote in both states.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:41 PM
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6. Data-mining could be used to find and use these "Snowbird" votes...
It occurred to me that data-mining the entire voter roll of a state (or multiple states) could be done to find registered voters who exist in more than one state, thus enabling those votes to be used in a pool of available votes that could be "unauditably injected" into the central tabulators... the 2000 Florida ruckus about the Felon voter rolls, and the company DBT who was paid $6 million to call all the felons to make sure they were who they were... Maybe DBT actually _did_ some work for their $6M???? Data-mining _is_ their business after all...

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shakerbaker Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:46 PM
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9. I got political solicitation
from the Republican Party from my former state of
Minnesota addressed to my Washington address. Could
this have been part of the Republican strategy/fraud?
Get voters to vote in more than one state. I didn't get
any solicitations from the democrats...hmmmmm
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:46 PM
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8. You can be registered in more than one state, you just can't
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 02:47 PM by apolitical no more
vote more than once. That is a Federal crime.

However, I don't know how they would know.

Here in CA, they had a news program sort of encouraging Democrats who owned property in Florida, or any swing state, to register there and vote absentee. Their vote would make a difference in the National election's outcome since CA is Blue!

However, those people would not get to vote on any Statewide or local issues in CA that might be important to them.
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