There's something wrong with me because I really don't care who gets it.

[EFerrari]

I don't care who gets the Democratic nomination, not really.

I'm much more concerned about the election. About the voter roll purges and the vote caging and all the other neat tricks they will pull.

Maybe it's hard to get worked up about what could end up being theater, expensive theater.

I was talking to one of my friends that helped me and Andy through, as much as we could be helped. And we were both remembering how people didn't believe it when we said the right wing was after Andy. But they were and they did attack him, just as surely as if they'd driven a stake through his heart.

Andy was effective. And he walked right into the web of criminality that was gearing up to bring us what we now take for the status quo. With his charming smile and his humor and his intelligence and his energy and the way he could curl people right around his little finger. No wonder there was such a backlash against his wellbeing.

I really don't care who gets this nomination, not really. But I do care, very much, about this election. There may be very little I can do. But I swear on my kids' heads, if all I can do is help people verify their voter reg, I'll do THAT. If all I can do is cheerlead, I'll do THAT. Whatever. I don't even care what the task is. Cold calling media types, walking, writing, it just doesn't matter. I'll do THAT.

I'm not ready to let them steal it again. And, I'm not sure they can't.

[saltpoint]

1. I don't mind your politics at all, madam, because your musical tastes are

flawless.

Happy New Year! :hi: :thumbsup:

[EFerrari]

2. Happy New Year, my long suffering friend.

:rofl:

:hug:

:hi:

[Missy M]

3. It would be great if everyone on here.....

felt the same as you. :thumbsup:

[SharonAnn]

10. Many of us feel the same way. So many great candidates, all better than *.

We'll be much better off with any one of them in office. And, when that nominee is finally decided, we need to work like h*ll to get him/her elected.

Cheers! Happy New Year!

[EFerrari]

13. Our nominee will be elected. The point is we'll need to work like hell

to get them seated because the mofos will certainly try to steal it AGAIN.

[JeffR]

4. K & R! Great post.

:kick:

[EFerrari]

5. They WILL try to steal AGAIN.

We know that. That's all.

What are we willing to do?



We have a year to stop them.

[bananas]

11. Page 1A of USAToday: Legal voters thrown off rolls; Database woes could be 'sleeper issue of 2008'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3928780

[EFerrari]

12. Action thread in response:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2573725

[Just-plain-Kathy]

6. I have come to terms with the fact that nothing has changed since the last two stolen elections.

The powers-that-be will not give up their rule because NO ONE is holding them accountable. Talk is cheap, our candidates say the "want change" but they do nothing to bring change.

[EFerrari]

8. Let's back up. Imho, something has changed.

WE have so much more information.

WE have the benefit of dedicated activists who have fought to build infrastructure for election reform.

No, the politicians won't take this up. Fine. WE have each other, the net, a mountain of good work and foresight. That's something.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

22. We protest in the streets and no one hears about it.

There are lawsuits trying to correct wrongs and the media talks about Britney. Our democratic leaders have hung us out to dry.

...The election take over has started to happen already. DK and Ron Paul are already being pushed out.

[EFerrari]

30. The corporate media is worse than useless. We know we can't count

on them to do anything but back up their paymasters' positions.

[EV_Ares]

7. I am going to join you on this, have always been for Edwards, ok with Obama and have always really

liked Dennis ok anyway. Hillary is the only one not real fond of and don't think she is our best choice.

However, done with the arguments here on this.

Agree with you, no matter who, no more stolen elections, no more neo-cons or Rwers.

K&R.

[EFerrari]

9. I'd be at peace if they beat us honestly but they can't.

And after swallowing two stolen elections that resulted in the deaths, displacement and injury of millions of people, I can't do it again. There's no way.

[eridani]

14. An excellent reminder for all of us, even those really partial to the candidate of their choice

We have to remember to multitask here, or it is all for nothing.

[EFerrari]

16. I have a preference but that fact can't compete

with the need to know, the votes were counted.

[Spiffarino]

15. An embarassment of riches. Nice problem to have!

According to ABC News, the Democratic candidates are on a pace to set a record for caucus turnout. The GOP, on the other hand, is poised to have its worst showing this year. There is no candidate they can really agree on as they all come fraught with "problems" like Romney's former and Giuliani's current support for women's choice, Huckabee's Arkansas tax hikes and Grandpa Fred's problem of being completely uninspiring.

[EFerrari]

17. But Rove et al didn't set interns to work on the caucus or the primary.

They have set out to steal votes via bigger and better voter suppression.

If we allow ourselves to overlook this, we're making a mistake.

[Spiffarino]

24. You are, without a doubt, correct.

They are already putting their voter-suppression and vote-stealing plans to work. The only way to counter it may be to nominate a candidate that won't self-destruct in the general election. We need enough votes to make it too obvious that the Repubs are stealing it again. If it's too close, the Republicans will take the White House.

[EFerrari]

28. It's hard to believe it was even close last time.

But, I see what you're saying.

The Republicans are helping out with their three perfectly horrendous candidates that no one like. I only hope Bloomberg jumps in because he'll split the already disgruntled vote.

[mzmolly]

18. I am far more concerned about the GE than I am anything else.

Andy was effective. And he walked right into the web of criminality that was gearing up to bring us what we now take for the status quo. With his charming smile and his humor and his intelligence and his energy and the way he could curl people right around his little finger. No wonder there was such a backlash against his wellbeing.

We'll have to take that Andy spirit into the upcoming battle with us Sfexpat! :hi:

[EFerrari]

25. Sounds like a plan to me!

:hi:

[bleever]

19. With our elections turned into a rigged carnival game,

we shouldn't be distracted even if our next throw is a winner.

If we can't fix the system, and restore the rule of law, any victory is a mere shiny bauble meant to fascinate us into thinking that we're winners, when in fact we're the designated suckers.


Recommended.

[EFerrari]

27. Designated suckers who pay to be ripped off.

I think not!

[Kurovski]

20. K&R.

"There is no such thing as inner peace: there is only nervousness or death."

--Fran Lebowitz

[Ellipsis]

21. There ain't nothing wrong with you.

Because you "get it" you don't care who gets it. Got it? ;-)

Have good 2008 sfexpat.

[EFerrari]

26. You, too, my friend.

:)

[DemReadingDU]

23. Doesn't matter to me either,

I just want the Democrat to be President.

Ohio elected a Democratic governor and a Democratic Senator in 2006. Surely, Ohio and the rest of the states can elect a Democratic President in 2008!

[EFerrari]

29. Isn't it harder to steal Ohio alone than a national election?

Federal elections would seem to give the cheats so many more places to hide their fraud.

(Still grateful for Ohio! :) )

[flashl]

31. Its not a popularity contest

2008 Interactive Electoral Map
The Road to 270

It takes 270 Electoral Votes to win the Presidential Election

[tbyg52]

32. I am POSITIVE that they'll try.

I hope they can be stopped, one way or another.