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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:36 PM
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X-Posted from GD: So SMARTECH, company that hosts gwb43.com, ALSO hosted the OHIO ELECTION RETURNS
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 06:54 PM by Patsy Stone
Kudos to jackstraw45 for this catch (please give him the Recs.):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x467855

Just making sure before my head explodes:

1. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/7/144314/082
Ohio website for live Election Night Dashboard moves from State of Ohio to
SMARTechcorp.net IP address managed by the Republican National Committee

AND

2. From betterwhois.com:

AboutUs: GWB43.COM

Registrant:
Republican National Committee
310 First Street SE
Washington, DC 20003
US

Domain Name: GWB43.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Republican National Committee dns@RNCHQ.ORG
310 First Street SE
Washington, DC 20003
US
999 999 9999 fax: 999 999 9999

Record expires on 16-Jan-2008.
Record created on 16-Jan-2004.
Database last updated on 21-Mar-2007 17:45:46 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.CHA.SMARTECHCORP.NET
A.NS.TRESPASSERS-W.NET

AND

3. Look who was hosting the OHIO election result site on NOVEMBER 3, 2004:

Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 3-Nov-2004 64.203.98.137 SMARTECH CORPORATION
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:41 PM
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1. They don't know jack squat about the Internets
Too funny! Dumbasses.

Like I was just telling Boyfriend Dearest: Their lies aren't enough to cover their lies. You have to lie and lie and lie to cover up a lie and before you know it, there are more lies than you can remember.

Take all the lies and wrap them in ignorance, and you have The Bush Administration... aka The Fourth Reich!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:41 PM
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2. oooh. Are you saying that the sec of state of Ohio, one kenneth blackwell
entrusted the election results to the republican party? Were these the OFFICIAL election results? or just an extra display, in which case there wouldn't be a crime there.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:51 PM
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4. These were the results that we, the people, all over the world saw
From the dKos diary:

<snip>

The content of the site was just as important as traffic capacity.
The main drawing card — live returns — were pulled straight from the Secretary of State’s election-returns database.

<snip>

Attempting to surf to http://election.sos.state.oh.us
will redirect the visitor to http://www.sos.state.oh.us.
Following Election Results links leads to http://www.sos.state.oh.us/...
(not the Election Night Dashboard at time of writing). On Tuesday, Nov. 7, databases
of name servers should be refreshed to enable websurfers to clicking 'election.sos.state.oh.us'
to arrive at http://64.203.98.137//Results/Dashboard.aspx.

<snip>

-----

IOW, it doesn't matter what the results really were. If Blackwell and Rove had their way, I'm sure no one would ever have known the real results. These results were all they wanted you to see.

Criminals.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:51 PM
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5. Lots of information at the Kos link....
SOS Blackwell also neglected to inform that he outsourced Election Night hosting
services to the provider of Internet operations for the Republican National Committee,
SMARTech Corp. It's clear that most
of the IP address space allocated to Smartechcorp, if it has a domain name, is
operated by the RNC or its functionaries and allies.

Is there significance to the fact that election.sos.state.oh.us, on Tuesday
night, will correspond to the IP address that lies between Karl Rove's
Votervault.com and the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC)? Just
one arrangment of odd bedfellows in that example click the link
to IP Block 64.203.98.xxx for other familiar examples such as Becki Donatelli-client,
VetsForFreedom.com, or Ken Mehlman's 72hour.org.. They're all hot items right
now with each aimed capture the reader's vote.

Attempting to surf to http://election.sos.state.oh.us
will redirect the visitor to http://www.sos.state.oh.us.
Following Election Results links leads to http://www.sos.state.oh.us/...
(not the Election Night Dashboard at time of writing). On Tuesday, Nov. 7, databases
of name servers should be refreshed to enable websurfers to clicking 'election.sos.state.oh.us'
to arrive at http://64.203.98.137//Results/Dashboard.aspx.

Ken Blackwell outsourced the design of the Election Night Project to Mike Connell
who is a GOP operative and the principal of New
Media Communications and GovTech Solutions. Their association may go back
as far as the George H. W. Bush era. Connell's long-established association in
the online political, campaign and fundraising arenas, in addition to his technological
expertise, made him a shoe-in for government and non-government services where
pay-to-play is the standard..


Simply criminal.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:43 PM
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3. Son of a b#*th!
That can't be legal. I am really not familiar with election law, but from an IT standpoint it is clear that this is very likely the same entity.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:56 PM
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6. Hold on a sec
I think that this is less nefarious than we might like to think.

http://www.smartechcorp.net/

They are a Tennessee-based internet service provider. Looks like they became the authoritative DNS server for that address on election night. This happens all the time when you switch service providers for web applications. You move it from one server with a certain host name, and then configure all the name resolution servers to point to the new server where it is now running.

Now that same ISP is also hosting the gwb43.com, and to me this is no big deal. It'd be trying to make the case that there is some nefarious link between Cheney and Pelosi, because they both happen to use the same cellphone network.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:00 PM
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7. From the dKos diary.
As the last ballots are cast tonight, Ohioans will confidently track realtime results using voting equipment and Internet reporting systems that Ken Blackwell built to replace the horrors of hanging chads. Will the electorate choke to find that the architect of Ohio's Election Night Results Dashboard is an RNC technology strategist and the political intimate of the Bush Dynasty since the 80s? Will a Strickland voter simply resolve to swallow harder on discovering that his realtime election returns may be shipped to his desktop from the GOP Internet operations center in Chattanooga rather than the Ohio OARnet IT servers in Columbus?

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:06 PM
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8. To be clear
I am *only* trying to clarify that Internet Service Providers and Application Service Providers just do what you ask them to with regard to hosts, and servers, and applications. Just trying to focus on those who were requesting the changes, rather than the Smartech company.

Seems like the last minute switch might have been illegal, but it seems that the ISP's liability would be limited if they were doing what their customers were asking.


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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:20 PM
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9. The dKos article seems to indicate that the address was
"official" but the IP address was changed to the official RNC website. That would put an entirely different spin on just what Karl and his laptop boiler operation were really doing...reporting results or fixing them. Given what we know about Blackwell, Ohio Republican corruption, money, and the visits by Bush at the end of the campaign....I think this certainly deserves a lot more scrunity. We've been looking at the election machines as the focus of election fraud...it may well be that the fraud was delivered from the WH by Karl.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:43 PM
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10. WAKE UP for a brief moment PLEASE. The real problem was ...
counting the votes other than as cast.

The official reported votes are not the votes cast. So WHO CARES which hosting comnpany reported the miscounted votes.

WAKE UP ALREADY. There is a real issue. Kerry votes counted for Bush. JEEEEZZZZZ!!!!!!

OHIO 2004: 6.15% Kerry-Bush vote-switch found in probability study
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=203&topic_id=469493&mesg_id=469493

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:49 AM
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13. however some of these
central tabulators are connected to the net - backdoor possibility of summary manipulation? took only a few hours for the totals to drastically change - while CNN was waiting to for the "weighted" totals...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:26 AM
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11. Who is taking care of the counting?
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 12:26 AM by bleever

Would that be Peter King?

Would there be a web presence of totals?

Would there be web access to the totaling by anyone?

Does anyone have a receipt?

No returns without receipt, remember?




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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:45 AM
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12. combine that with kpete's
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x404079

Another E-MAIL-This Time Showing Rove's Hand In Prosecutor Purge

explains the rows of computer screens on election night in 04 - maybe

and interesting comments here:
http://www.blogd.com/archives/000671.html

CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS
http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/2007/03/roves-dirty-tricks-email-servers.html
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:25 AM
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14. HOLD YOUR HORSES and place the focus where it belongs...
I updated my web domain last night. A hosting company only provides the server. They do nothing except web hosting whatever I decide to place online. I decide what to post online, when, etc. If I post a typo, do not contact my hosting company. Tell me. This is that simple until otherwise demonstrated.

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