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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:23 AM
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A request from Clint Curtis
Our quest is moving ahead and we need your participation once again. So get out your cell phones and your computers and call C-SPAN Washington Journal 202-737-0002 that is on 7 -10 AM everyday of the week and email Journal {at} C-span.org .

Why?

Because yesterday when Congressman Rush Holt pointed out at the opening of the Congress (despite the boos) that the seating of the new Congress does not indicate that the House has decided the elections which are being contested before it pursuant to 2 USC § 381 et seq., the Federal Contested Elections Act, C-SPAN posted a graph that showed only the Jennings Race as being contested. This morning one of Clint’s long time supporters, Karen Landers, was the last caller to make it on Washington Journal. She informed the country that there are in fact 4 contested elections and that C- SPAN needed to correct their chart.

Your calls and emails to C-SPAN letting them know you want them to correct their error can make a difference. They need to know that our Contests that have been filed with the State and in Congress (see below for info from our news release for details) will give the Congress actual data in the form of affidavits that connect votes to voters (unlike the Jennings’ race) showing that the Democrat could in fact have won in District 21, 24 and 5.

We have statisticians working on analyzing the data and are finding Undervotes and Overvotes all across the state. Clint has spent 8 hours, two days a week for a month at the Volusia County Supervisor of Elections (SOE) office video tapping every vote 62,000 of them. One bag containing votes had a broken seal. That precinct was one in which our poll watchers were not allowed to view the closing……We are walking that precinct and need your help!

Some of our findings may not be a dramatic as Jennings and yet, as you know, with electronic voting machines, a few votes just need to be manipulated here and a few more there and pretty soon, a candidate has a win that was not chosen by the voters. Either the machines accurately count each vote or they do not. Without an accurate count, we do not have a Democracy.

In Frank Gonzalez's race District 21 : According to the data we have received from the Supervisor of Elections in Miami-Dade County, there are over 12,000 more votes than voters.

In Clint Curtis' race; In District 24 - Affidavits that have been signed by voters indicate a 8-12% projection that would change the official results. In Orange County , there are over 1800 missing votes in Dist 24.

In John Russell's race District 5: In a precinct in Pasco County affidavits have confirmed more votes were received for John Russell than recorded in the official election results. That would have altered that precinct 18-20% in his favor.

In analyzing these patterns across many districts in Florida, we have noted that the Republicans have a 10% advantage over the over the Democrats. If you have a 10% favoring of one candidate that equates to 20% lead in the overall results which means that any race in Florida that was decided by less than 20% is suspect.


ACTIONS:

CALL C-SPAN Washington Journal 202-737-0002 that is on 7 -10 AM everyday of the week
EMAIL C-SPAN Journal {at} C-span.org


WALK Precincts in Volusia , Orange, & Seminole.
Contact Marty
Marty 954-732-1112 or marty {at} go-nci.com

Next Week
Tuesday to Friday 3:30 - 5:30
Volusia
Orange
Seminole

Next Saturday 8:30 – 5:30
Next Sunday 1:00 – 5:30

et me know if you would like to be a captain who will organize the volunteers once they are given a place to meet.

The dedicated and determined patriots who have all ready walked four of our precincts despite having holidays to prepare for have gotten us the data we needed to file a Contest with the State and in Congress. Your support would be most appreciated to finish up this effort so we have an even stronger case when we go to court in Leon County and when Clint goes before Congress.

United we can get VERIFIBLE ELECTIONS and know that in ’08 the will of the people will be heard and not the pocketbook of the voting machine companies.

THANK YOU!
Marty
954-732-1112
marty {at} go-nci.com

FROM NEWS RELEASE

The results of four of Florida’s Congressional elections are being contested before the House of Representatives, and five Congressional elections are being contested in Florida state court. John Russell is contesting the results of the 2006 General Election for U.S. Representative for District 5 of the State of Florida and the election of Ginny Brown-Waite. Frank Gonzalez is contesting the results of the election for U.S. Rep. for District 21 of Florida and the election of Lincoln Diaz-Balart. Clint Curtis is contesting the results of the election for U.S. Rep. for District 24 of Florida and the election of Tom Feeney. Mr. Russell, Mr. Gonzalez, and Mr. Curtis are represented by Mark A. Adams, Esquire of Tampa, and they are also contesting these elections in Florida state court. Interviews with them can be scheduled through Ms. Marty Ward at 954-732-1112. Mr. Curtis is also represented before Congress by Cynthia Butler, Esquire of Washington D.C. Gus Bilirakis’ election in District 9 is also contested in Florida state court.

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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:37 AM
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1. Recommended for wider viewing
I just found this piece in my email 5 minutes ago and am hoping to be able to volunteer as well.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:21 PM
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6. Major security violations by Volusia SOE office(CD24) and Broward Co(CD21)
transported bags of votes end up with different seal number than when they started or arrive with no seal on bag

failure to allow transparency in manipulation and counting of large numbers of "unreadable" absentees

TS machine zero vote requirement violations, were votes from early voting or early "trials" or etc. counted also? phantom votes?

failure to provide candidates with detailed election and voter results in timely manner
etc.



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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 06:05 AM
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2. K & Highest R!!!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:03 PM
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5. High undervotes in CD5 touch screen county-Pasco- 6 times higher than Gov. race
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 02:05 PM by philb
on same machines and 3 to 4 times that of neighboring counties that use opti-scan
Pasco is largest county in CD5


ps: the Pasco county SOE has been named the new state SOS by the new Repub Gov. Crist
its said that he loves touch screens for some reason


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:26 AM
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3. Should be boldface: Machines putting 10% "thumb on the scales" for Repubs
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 10:26 AM by Peace Patriot
From above:

"In analyzing these patterns across many districts in Florida, we have noted that the Republicans have a 10% advantage over the over the Democrats. If you have a 10% favoring of one candidate that equates to 20% lead in the overall results which means that any race in Florida that was decided by less than 20% is suspect."

This is stunning--and should be HIGHLIGHTED!

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This is close to my wild guess as to the overall situation. I estimated a 5% to 10% "thumb on the scales" for Bushites, warmongers and corporatists. (I don't think it's strictly partisan, although it's mostly Repubs who are getting the advantage). My wild guess was based partly on opinion polls showing an overwhelming American progressive majority in the nation--not only big opposition to Bush's war (starting way back before the war, in Feb. '03, when 56% of Americans opposed the invasion--to today, with 70% opposed to the war), but big numbers against Bush--60%, 70%--on ALL issues. Torture. Social Security. The deficit. Women's rights. You name it.

So...how did Bush/Cheney stay in office? And how did we end up with a Bush "pod people" Congress (--the Diebold I Congress, '04-'06)? And how come Democrats didn't win EVEN BIGGER in '06? (See www.TruthIsAll.net, for statistical analysis that shows Dems should have won 40-50 seats, not just 30.)

What the people--and Howard Dean's 50-state/grass roots strategy--did in '06 was MAGNIFICENT! We OUTVOTED the machines! Also, I sense an election fraud system that is starting to break down, that functioned erratically in '06. I don't know if the Dark Lords decided to temper their vote stealing somewhat (to kill the election reform movement) or citizen monitoring was putting constraints on them. Perhaps both, and these, combined with the voters being quite determined to send a message about the war and corruption--and outvoting the machines--resulted in the Dems winning a majority in both houses (not planned).

But the stats in this OP by Eridani confirm that we are operating under a significant handicap--in the 10% range--comprised of numerous 'disappeared' or phantom (manufactured) votes (undervotes, overvotes, switched votes) programmed by the Bushite electronic voting machines, with their TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code. I would say that this handicap is nationwide, in almost all states--wherever ES&S and Diebold (and possibly Sequoia) count the votes (80% of the nation in 2004). For instance, I stumbled upon a very strange 10% undervote for Kerry in the 2004 election statewide in California.* Where good Democrats win, we should presume they won by 10% more than is apparent (--important to strategy and especially to policy). Where they lose, we should look for how/where the extra votes for the Repubs (or bad Dems in the primaries) came from, or whose votes were 'disappeared.' (If my guess about Calif is correct, it is possible to pinpoint the worst election officials, who are permitting the vote stealing--and also where, exactly, it is occurring.*)

No wonder ES&S won't let Christine Jennings see their source code! And no wonder they destroyed CA Sec of State Kevin Shelley for his demand to see Diebold's source code (prior to the 2004 election). And no wonder Tom Delay and Bob Ney--the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress (abetted by corporatist 'Democrats' Christopher Dodd and Terry McAuliffe)--fast-tracked an election system run on TRADE SECRET code!

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*(In 2004, Kerry won California by a 10% margin. Sen. Boxer won California, in her Senate race, by a 20% margin. This might be attributable to her incumbency--or to the fact that she is a woman, or some other factor--except that ALL of the difference between them comes from REPUBLICAN counties. The discrepancy did not occur in Democratic counties, where Kerry and Boxer ran about evenly. This makes no political sense whatever. The Republican counties are a mixed bag of voting methods--including the old punchcards, optiscans, and the touchscreens that Kevin Shelley had not decertified. So, what is the common denominator? 1--that the election system is run by Republicans. And 2--that all votes are TABULATED electronically, by central tabulators. Likely, the vote stealing from Kerry occurred in the central tabulators, with those doing the fraudulent programming feeling confident that entrenched Bushite Republican election officials would look the other way (ignore anomalous numbers). Republican counties would be the SAFEST place to steal votes from Kerry! Kerry still won the state--because of the large Democratic vote for him in Democratic counties--but that 10% of stolen votes in Republican counties helped to pad Bush's national popular majority. And it points to HOW Bush's popular majority was manufactured--by stealing small %'s of votes, here and there, all over the country.)

(Another suspicious election in California was the 2003 "recall" election that Schwarzenegger supposedly won. Kevin Shelley had barely had time to sharpen his pencils and put his name on the door, when that weird election was foisted on the electorate. It was the first big Diebold/ES&S election, and it had 125 candidates on the ballot--making it extremely easy for the GEMS tabulators to re-distribute votes away from the main Dem contender, Cruz Bustamante. We didn't have an election reform movement at that time--and Shelley was just beginning to investigate Diebold--so no one was really looking carefully at the numbers, but I do remember an obscure gay candidate reporting that he got TOO MANY votes in some obscure rural Republican county where he was a complete unknown--a red flag!)

(One other interesting sidelight: The Repub Sec of State Bill Jones (just prior to Shelley) and his chief aide, Alfie Charles, were the team that brought these election theft machines to California on a large scale. They set it all up. But, before it was fast-tracked, Shelley beat Jones for Sec of State ('02) (--in the last transparent election in California). When Jones lost to Shelley, Jones and Charles went to work for Sequoia--one of the chief beneficiaries of their electronic voting boondoggle--in an egregious example of "revolving door employment." (Shelly banned "revolving door employment" in his office.) Also, before or after Jones went to work for Sequoia--I'm not sure which--he ran for US Senator in '04, against Barbara Boxer! He is the one Boxer beat by a 20% margin! So, why didn't the machines (s)elect Jones? The answer is possibly two-fold: a) that Boxer was so popular, a theft of her election would be too blatant; and b) that Schwarzenegger is the darling boy of the Bush Cartel, and, if Jones had "beaten" Boxer, or had even just done well against her, Jones would be a rival to Schwarzenegger within the Republican Party. In other words, this new power that these far rightwing electronic voting corporations now have over voting results is being used not just to (s)elect Republicans, but also to shape the politics of parties and of the country.) (And I think that is exactly what they did--or tried to do--re the new Dem Congress in '06, with erratic results, due to high voter outrage and voters outvoting the machines.)

(Note: Apart from this sidebar about California, I think that, overall, that the Diebold/ES&S coup was/is all about the war--to keep the war going, to keep Bush/Cheney in office to keep the war booty coming, and to defy the clear anti-Iraq war views of the American people. It also favors corporatists and the interests of the super-rich (for instance, Schwarzenegger killed the Calif lawsuit/FEC action against Enron--Davis/Bustamante were trying to get our $9 billion back). And, of course these interests merge--but it is manufacturing of a war that was the most difficult project, and, for that, they had to gain control of the vote counting.)

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 08:10 PM
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9. Exactly. Imagine how stunned they were when they STILL lost the congress.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 01:02 PM
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4. More Florida craziness discussed here:
Why didn't the Democrats in Florida challenge the huge irregularities in Attn General race?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x463946

Sumter County in Florida had undervotes of over 15% reported in 95% of their precincts. The undervote rate was over 25% in 31 percent of precincts in early voting. One precinct had over 50%.

Yet for absentee voting on paper the undervote rate was 2.8% No precinct had under 10% undervotes on election day.

Six other counties had undervotes in the Attorney General's Race of similar magnitudes.

Who would trust the results on these ES&S touch screens in this race or any race?


More info at link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x463946
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 04:09 PM
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7. Part of the whole syndrome, I'm afraid, is that you have allowed
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 04:13 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
criminals to frame the issues even in terms of single-word terms. Most notably, the term, "undervote". They are not "undervotes", they are "missing" votes or "uncounted" votes.

Votes are either cast or they are not cast, either at the disposal of the vote-counters to be counted, or not available - missing. There is no such thing as "undervoting", unless you are referring to the failure of people to vote.

Even the term "missing" is probably a euphemism for "undercounting". I don't think there can be the least doubt that the USA is the only country in the world that feels this tenderness for the feelings of palpable fraudsters. "Missing votes" is the term that would be used anywhere else, assuming that is, that there was no suspicion that the vote counters had simply not counted said votes.

Sorry for lecturing you, but I just don't get it.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 07:18 PM
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8. K&R Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! Nothing More Nothing Less!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:50 PM
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10. k&r
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 01:23 AM
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11. has Rush Holt mentioned Clint's race? n/t
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 02:18 AM
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12. More on this at BradBlog
Edited on Sun Jan-07-07 02:18 AM by Contrite
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3986#more-3986

In a comment sent to The BRAD BLOG last night from Holt's office in reply to the Curtis statement, the office says Holt's actions in the House "will focus on Christine Jennings and FL-13, but the ruling will apply broadly." As well, they say that while Holt will be "championing the cause of anyone who has a pending legal or official house electoral contest, the genesis of his involvement is certainly with" Jennings and that he's "more able to attest to the merits of her case."
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