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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:01 PM
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OHIO - Poll Rage? Man Breaks Machines At Polling Location
Poll Rage? Man Breaks Machines At Polling Location
Man Faces Several Charges

POSTED: 11:56 am EDT May 2, 2006

CLEVELAND -- A 61-year-old man was arrested after an alleged poll rage incident, NewsChannel5 reported.

Officials said the man was arrested after breaking a voting machine. He faces disorderly conduct, obstructing official business and resisting arrest charges.

It took several people to restrain the man who was trying to vote at a 4330 Jennings Road.

It's unclear what caused the man to become upset.

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/9146477/detail.html
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:05 PM
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1. "It's Unclear What Caused The Man To Become Upset."
I can think of a few things. Hopefully his reason had to do with the way most of us feel about voting machines or our country's joke of a leadership.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:05 PM
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It's unclear what caused the man to become upset?
Try loosing your right to a fair election.

I do not condone it but I am afraid it will take some violence before we get America back.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:05 PM
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2. Dube - Delete
Edited on Tue May-02-06 12:05 PM by liberal N proud
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:13 PM
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3. probably one of those machines that comes up repub no matter what
you press.

tricky.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:14 PM
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4. Is this the beginning of "Baseball bats for democracy"? n/t
n/t
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:26 AM
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18. tsk tsk
A small razor would have been more effective. Touch screens are most vulnerable because of the thin plastic layer over the screen. If this layer gets cut, the machine is no longer usable since there is no way to input further information.

That is what I heard. ;)

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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:18 PM
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5. Pictures at the link also. nt
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:25 PM
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6. Taking back democracy one
machine at a time!

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:22 PM
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8. hmmmm.
bet we might see more of that.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:03 PM
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11. So, what happens if they can't recover votes from that machine?
I'm not dissing the man or his actions, just that 1000's of votes can be trashed by one guy knocking over a Diebold machine. Another reason to get rid of electronic voting.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:18 PM
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12. Heres how, we take the "toilet paper roll" in this pic
and we count em up by hand.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:22 PM
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13. And compare the results against what?
Are the results on the paper accurate? Maybe, but based on Diebold's past performance probably not.

Maybe they'll audit the entire polling place because of this event? I see no reason why they shouldn't.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:55 PM
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15. the news report I saw, said he knocked over 2 machines
and assaulted someone outside the polling station.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:41 PM
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7. They must've forgotten to replace the chips from 2004....
...and the stupid thing just kept flashing BUSH *beep* BUSH *beep* BUSH *beep* BUSH *beep* BUSH...

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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:24 PM
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9. This is why I'll vote absentee. I don't trust myself in the same room
with a voting machine.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:33 PM
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10. I don't suppose he pulled out a memory card we could examine?
:eyes:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:47 PM
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14. Mr. Fenster & beer for minors incident--dude has had some rough times
Defendant-appellant Marc A. Fenster appeals from his
38 conviction following a jury trial in Berea Municipal Court for
39 allowing underage persons to remain in his residence while
40 possessing or consuming beer or intoxicating liquor in violation of
41 R.C. 4301.69(B). Defendant claims error in that he was deprived of
42 due process and did not receive a fair trial because his privilege
43 against self incrimination was violated; the prosecutor was guilty
44 of misconduct; he was denied effective assistance of counsel; and
45 the evidence was insufficient to establish the violation. We find
46 no reversible error and affirm.
47 On the evening of May 9, 1997, defendant Fenster, age 51, was
48 at his residence located at 325 Berea Street, Apt. C., Berea, Ohio.
49 At or about 7:00 p.m., a group of approximately fifteen juveniles
50 ranging in age from thirteen to fifteen gathered at the neighboring
51 apartment of a Mr. James Hill to celebrate his son's birthday.
52 Sometime between 7:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m., the party moved out of
53 the Hill apartment onto the lawn and porch of the apartment
54 building. It was at this time that a group decision was made to
55 go to Fenster's.
56 The group proceeded to shout and knock on the door of
57 defendant who allowed the adolescents into his apartment. The
58 juveniles remained in defendant's apartment for the next two and
59 one-half to three hours. Three juveniles testified that the group
60 had remained in the apartment during this time period and drank
61 beer out of forty ounce bottles. All three juveniles also
62 -3-
63 testified that defendant was sitting on the couch with them as they
64 were drinking the beer. One of the juveniles testified that the
65 defendant brought out two forty ounce bottles of beer, cigars and
66 cigarettes and handed them out to the juveniles. The defendant, on
67 the other hand, testified that he never saw any beer that night
68 being consumed by the juveniles, nor did he see any cigars or
69 cigarettes. Defendant further testified that there was only a half
70 bottle of beer in his refrigerator that night which later
71 disappeared.
72 During the time the juveniles were in the apartment, they
73 damaged the carpeting, threatened to break the television and
74 temporarily took possession of the keys to defendant's car. After
75 the juveniles left, defendant discovered that the half bottle of
76 beer which was in his refrigerator was missing. Based on the
77 discoloration of his fish tank, he assumed that the contents of the
78 bottle (approximately twenty ounces) had been poured into the
79 aquarium.
80 Based on previous inadequate police response to similar
81 incidents, defendant did not place a call to the police. Instead,
82 defendant, who had a history of psychological problems, tried to
83 manage the situation as best he could in the hopes that the
84 juveniles would decide to leave the apartment. Later that night,
85 parents of some of the youths reported the episode to the police
86 resulting in the charges.

http://www.rbfh.de/gopher.fcgi?server=CPEL.cpl.org&port=7077&query=0%5B_1998%5D_73252.&type=file
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:53 PM
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16. They had new touch-screen machines here in columbus.
Made by a company called "Ivotronics" or something like that. there was a voter-verifiable paper trail. Each touch of the screen was added to the print-out and the voter could see what just registered. It was ostensibly as good as can be expected in an electronic machine.

We have a Democratic chairman of the Board of Elections for this county. At least I never saw the name "Diebold", "Sequoia", or "ES&S".

Still....it was creepy because the partitions were non-existant. there we were, five voters in a room with six machines....beeping and chirping our votes in plain sight of each other. It was surreal.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:37 AM
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17. iVotronic is ES&S
The iVotronic is ES&S's touchscreen.

They don't have a good privacy booth.

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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 02:20 AM
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19. Damn....stealth brand-naming
And yes, the privacy issue was notable and made me feel a bit uncomfortable. I did like that there was a paper trail, though.

One voter made the comment that they did not like the absence of curtains, either.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:41 AM
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20. Rage against the machine
sounds like misdemeanor charges :)
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mmarcus Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:06 AM
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21. Does anybody know what happened to the guy?
I laughed my ass off when I saw the Bradblog sotry on this! I hope they dropped the charges and I was looking in Google news but I can't find anything.
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