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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:11 AM
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More Justice Scalia on Bush v. Gore
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More Justice Scalia on Bush v. Gore

by Rick Hasen

March 27, 2006

A video has surfaced of a speech Justice Scalia gave in Switzerland (the Justice ordinarily does not allow video of his speeches), and according to Marty Lederman's post on SCOTUSblog, the Justice had this to say about Bush v. Gore:

    Scalia is characteristically combative and provocative. For instance, in response to a question about Bush v. Gore, he responds: "Come on, get over it." He states that the real question in the case was whether the election was to be decided by the Florida Supreme Court or by the U.S. Supreme Court -- "not a very hard question," in his view -- and "there was no way we could have turned that case down." He then states that the Florida Supreme Court -- but not the U.S. Supreme Court -- was "politically motivated."

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http://electionlawblog.org/archives/005273.html

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:30 AM
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1. Only one reason to stop a hand count
of paper ballots in America, Because the hand count total will not match and/or even come close to the machine count total we would have been able to expose the election theft machines in 2000.

Florida Supreme Court had it right!

Get over it Scalia We got you!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:40 AM
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2. O.K. Let's get this straight. Gore Won Florida!
Check this out!

<http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181>

On November 27, Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris officially certified George W. Bush as the "winner" in Florida by 537 votes.

Since that date, independent investigations by the media have revealed that many illegal votes were counted - while many legal votes were not.

If the votes in Florida had been counted by non-partisan election officials in compliance with the law, Gore would have won Florida.

Unfortunately, George W. Bush, his brother Governor Jeb Bush, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, a partisan Republican majority on the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Republican-owned media did everything in their power to prevent a fair and legal count of the votes.

In other words, these Republicans used their enormous power to steal the Presidency of the United States. Indeed, the untold story of Floridagate is as chilling as Watergate.

(more at link above)
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:19 PM
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9. Traitors - every single one of them. Enemies of the USA!
Bush Jr., Scalia, Jeb Bush, Harris, SCOTUS, all of them: TRAITORS.

They intentionally interrupted the election process to affect the outcome of the election. Verifying the ballots in a non-partisan manner was the only way to go, yet the process was interrupted. WHY?

Why indeed... :eyes:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:37 PM
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16. WHY?
I believe the rationale was that since there was no state-wide standard for a hand recount,
votes from different counties were subjected to recounts under differing standards, so
somebody's vote might get counted in one county and not in another. This resulted in a
14th Amendment equal protection crisis so serious that the only way to remedy the harm of
a differing count was not to count at all.

Of course recounting to differing standards in Ohio in 2004 bothered them not one bit.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:51 AM
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3. Justice Scalia is a traitor to the Republic.
It's simple as that.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:57 AM
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4. Scalia, as usual, is mixed up. It wasn't
a question of whether the election was to be decided by the Florida Supreme Court or by the U.S. Supreme Court. It was a question of whether to count votes or NOT count votes. We know Scalia's opinion of our votes is that they don't matter.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:58 AM
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6. Scalia is profoundly evil.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:58 AM
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5. #*%&^%%#@@%^^##
I can't say what I'm thinking, so I'll just nominate this one. :grr:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:38 AM
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7. not a very hard question, yet he got it WRONG!
the constitution, which scalia conveniently forgets when it doesn't serve his banana republican bias, clearly states that electors are determined in a manner of the states' choosing.

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS ARE, IN FACT, STATE ELECTIONS.

they determine the "electors" who convene in the electoral college, who in turn actually elect the president. the election of the electors themselves is clearly a state matter.

federal intervention in a state matter is only one of the MANY jokes scalia and the gang played on the constitution in this one case alone.

among the others are, a federal "equal protection" right to be disenfranchised;
the "need" to have a quick result in an election even though the official electoral votes aren't counted until congress convenes, and even then there's no constitutional time limit other than the january 20 inauguration day;
that unequal voting systems are ok, but unequal corresponding recount systems are not.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:05 PM
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8. This guy really does deserve to burn for his prejudices
He thinks he's on the court to RIGHT wrongs - as in decide everything possible in favor of those poor poor righties who are being cheated every day.

What a god damned ass hole he is!

IMPEACH SCALIA!!

IMPEACH SCALIA!!

IMPEACH SCALIA!!

IMPEACH SCALIA!!
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:56 PM
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10. Jesus..the whole republician party has gone insane! Now we have
republician nominated insane SCOTUS? WTF!If there was a God, may he smite his evil ass down and give him the big heart attack ASAP!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 02:13 PM
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11. I was going to post that Scalia is totally insane when I saw your post.
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:33 PM
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12. Starts with "get over it" ends with accusing Fla court of being "political
How oblivious can he be?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:03 PM
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14. Hmm... "oblivious" or dishonest?
Welcome to DU, Notoverit. :hi:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:01 PM
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13. The Supreme Court's * v Gore decision WASN'T politically motivated?!
Their decision stated that continuing the vote count would cause "irreparable harm" to dumbya.
AND the majority ruled that their traitorous landmark decision must never be used as precedent.
AND this traitorous, landmark decision, overriding the will of the people, was NOT signed by any of the effing cowards that made it.

Reminder of an excellent read:
Vincent Bugliosi's "None Dare Call It Treason"
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/bugliosi


R'ed
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:07 PM
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15. See Rober Greenwald's documentary "Unprecedented." It;s what got
me into the election fraud business. I had no idea how far in advance and how deliberate the planning was to steal that elections...felon purges...not to mention a Diebold machine dumping 16,022 Gore votes. Corrected, but not until after Gore conceded.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:17 AM
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17. .
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