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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:55 AM
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Jon Stewart skit on Diebold and e-voting
I made this thread about the hack in Maryland that happened in Jan,04 not realizing that Jon Stewart did a skit with the hacker in it two months later.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=406504

Jon stewart Skit April, 04

http://avirubin.com/vote/dailyshow.mov

With the Ion Sanchez hack, Diebold lawsuit the Howard Dean hack I can go on and on but maybe we need to send the Government some smelling salt so that they Wake the hell Up.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:41 AM
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1. Hey, I never caught this. And I wondered why Jon Stewart hadn't done
this issue. It's so.....mockable!* Thanks!

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*(I mean, when you lay it out, it just seems so insane. Two Bushite corporations tabulating all our votes with "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls. And you've got to wonder about the Dem Party leaders' sanity. It's as if they handed Karl Rove all the ballots, and let him scurry off with them to a White House basement, count them in secret, and come back out and TELL US who won. You think Bush might "win" something like that? Co-u-u-u-u-u-u-uld be-e-e-e-e-e! Really, that's about what it amounts to. Diebold run by Wally O'Dell, Bush/Cheney campaign chair in Ohio, and assorted felon programmers. And ES&S, brethren to Diebold, kick-started by Howard Ahmanson, far rightwing billionaire, funder of the Chalcedon Foundation. That's. Who. Counted. All. The. Votes. In. 2004!) (--with SECRET decoder rings!)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:13 AM
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2. P.S. It's a great clip! They cover the issue well, although they don't
get into WHO OWNS AND CONTROLS these voting machines. It's a wonder why the Dem Party leadership didn't burn down the capitol to get this fraudulent election SYSTEM thrown out, before it corrupted nearly every election official in the country with the $4 Billion Fed boondoggle for electronic voting (thence into the pockets of Bushite corporations), but half those officials are Democrats, so maybe that's it.

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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:59 PM
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15. check out whoscounting.net for the best compiliation I've seen of who
owns what and all the connections.
www.whoscounting.net
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:40 AM
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3. Two automatic recounts
I went to the bank to get 36 10 dollar bills. I give three tens to each of my nieces and nephews for Christmas, the teller puts the tens into the bill counter the bill counter counts out 36 10s so far so good right, the teller comes to the window and once again counts the tens right in front of me (the bank doesn't want any (over votes) the teller hands me the money and again I count it in front of him because I don't want any (under votes).

But people don't see vote counting that way, everyone just trust the vote counting machine totals. Why I don't know?

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:29 AM
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9. It's beacuse they don't think about it, memme Computers count...
the votes so no one can see

Literally there is nothing to see. That alone is suspect.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:04 PM
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10. How to take control of a country without a shot being fired, just
Convince the people they don't need to see how the votes get counted, and you to can control a country.

:rofl: You got to laugh at the insanity.
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:55 PM
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13. bill maher once wondered
why a voting machine isn't based on the same standards as a casino slot machine. If we protect our votes the way casino's protect their profits we would have a truly great system for security and accountability.

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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:23 PM
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11. Slight correction: the Bush campaign chair in OH was
Kenneth Blackwell. Equally horrifying.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:31 AM
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4. April 2004?
So that information was widely known, and yet not only were those f'ing things used the following November, States still continue to buy them now.

Maybe it's this attitude:

http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/templates/SDCTemplate.asp?a=4269&z=69&cp=PressRelease&pg=article&fpg=senpressreleases&sln=Bowen&sdn=28

Governor Signs A Pair Of Bowen Election Reform Measures And Vetoes Two Others

2005/10/11

SACRAMENTO – “People need and deserve to know their votes have been counted accurately, and the best way to ensure that happens is to use the paper printout that the voter has already verified as being accurate and check it against the results tallied by the electronic machine.”

That’s how Senator Debra Bowen (D-Redondo Beach), the chairwoman of the Senate Elections, Reapportionment & Constitutional Amendments Committee responded to the Governor’s decision to sign SB 370 into law tonight.

“I don’t see how the Secretary of State, who led the opposition to the bill, could say with straight face that he’s for fair elections, he’s for having a paper trail on electronic voting machines, yet he’s against using that paper trail to ensure the accuracy of the vote count,” said Bowen.

California law requires all electronic voting machines to be equipped with an accessible voter-verified paper audit trail (AVVPAT) as of January 1, 2006. Under a separate 40-year-old California law, elections officials are required to conduct a public manual tally of the ballots cast in at least 1% of the precincts chosen at random to check the accuracy of votes tabulated by an electronic or mechanical voting system. SB 370 requires elections officials to use the AVVPAT to comply with California’s 1% manual law and to use the AVVPAT it in the event of a recount.

The California Association of Clerks & Elections Officials opposed SB 370 even though it noted that the “. . . the possibility exists that the internal audit trail . . . could be programmed to print different results.”

<snip>


And:

http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/templates/SDCTemplate.asp?a=3263&z=69&cp=PressRelease&pg=article&fpg=senpressreleases&sln=Bowen&sdn=28

Bowen Effort To Restore Confidence In The Secretary Of State's Office Shot Down In Assembly Elections Committee

2005/07/05

SACRAMENTO – Ensuring the Secretary of State is focused solely on the integrity of the electoral process and preventing voting machine vendors from contributing to political campaigns was the goal of SB 11 by Senator Debra Bowen (D-Redondo Beach), which was killed in the Assembly Elections & Redistricting Committee late today on a 3-3 vote.

<snip>

SB 11 also would have prevented voting equipment manufacturers and vendors from making campaign contributions to candidates for state office, mayor, city council, board of supervisors, or any election official and precluded candidates from accepting such contributions. Under the bill, accepting a donation would be a violation of the Political Reform Act, which could lead to a fine of up to $5,000, a possible civil suit, and the potential for a criminal misdemeanor prosecution.

<snip>

“Voting technology isn’t just about counting pieces of paper with the names of candidates on them any longer, it’s a giant, multi-billion dollar industry that creates winners and losers when a state or a county decides to go with one company instead of another,” continued Bowen. “Contracting for voting equipment isn’t like contracting for paper clips or copy machine repair work because the stakes are exponentially higher. If the copy machine isn’t working right, you know it immediately, but if a voting machine malfunctions or has been tampered with, people may never know whether their votes were recorded accurately or if they were recorded at all.”

According to an August 2004 report from electionline.org, the main electronic voting equipment manufacturers (Diebold, ES&S, Hart InterCivic, and Sequoia) contributed over $650,000 between 2001 and 2003 to candidates running for office across the country, including four candidates for Secretary of State. In California, Sequoia donated $8,000 to candidates for state office in 2001-02, while ES&S made $10,000 in contributions to candidates for state office in 2001-02.


That committee is said to be comprised of 4 Dems and 2 Repugs.
So we have The California Association of Clerks & Elections Officials plus DINOS on the take from these criminal enterprises.

I don't know if smelling salts can fix this mess.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:40 AM
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5. Rats. Missed the editing period by a minute...
Next to the last line *should* have read:

"So we have Repugs, along with The California Association of Clerks & Elections Officials plus DINOS on the take from these criminal enterprises."


(Tried to edit/add the OBVIOUS: that Repugs, who benefit the most from election fraud, are primarily the ones "on the take". Doh!)
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:05 PM
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14. Oct 27,2000 ? May the best hacker win
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 09:23 AM
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6. Thanks for sharing!
I loved the Zen moment at the end of the video
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:51 AM
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7. Off to the greatest! This is a great clip and was done
before I started watching Jon.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:24 AM
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8. Well, well, well
drip,drip,drip

I wonder when the first Diebold employee will go to someone with the goods ?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:18 PM
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12. Mike Malloy is interviewing Mark Crispin Miller - Thursday - AAR!!
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:34 AM
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16. if you haven't seen the Stewart video, that means
you don't have the free CD-ROM on election truth, and it means that you need to get a copy. What are you waiting for? It's free! Everyone in this group should have a copy and everyone should be making more copies and giving them away!



http://www.solarbus.org/election/cd/
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