2000 Florida Election may have been hacked!

[MelissaB]

These are MSM sources for your friends who know nothing about these machines...or refuse to believe.

2000 Florida Election may have been hacked!

By: Brad Friedman-Investigative Reporter

Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:51 AM ET

Leon County's Ion Sancho Believes Electronic Manipulation of Votes Occurred in Florida's Contested Presidential Race!

Fallout Continues to Rock E-Voting World in Light of Recent Hack Demo of Machines made by Diebold, Inc.

MACON, GA. (www.bradblog.com)- The "hack test" of a mock election using Diebold voting equipment earlier this week in Leon County, Florida -- in which results of the election were completely flipped from 2-6 to 7-1 without even a trail of evidence left behind -- has continued to send shockwaves from Florida to Ohio to California and everywhere else in between.

The Director of Elections in Leon County, Ion Sancho reportedly proclaimed, after the stunning results of last Tuesday's test, that he would never use Diebold voting machines in any election in the county again.

Television news coverage began hitting last night in Tallahassee, the Florida state capital, which also happens to be in Leon County. And in a remarkable admission, Sancho now says he believes that such a hack occurred in the 2000 Presidential Election in Volusia County, Florida.

More: http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=12857

-- Here's a link to that video coverage...You need to watch it!

Go here to watch the video: http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html

Elections Official: Some Voting Machines Could Be Hacked

POSTED: 12:17 pm EST December 15, 2005
UPDATED: 4:35 pm EST December 16, 2005



Voting machines used in four Central Florida counties might be flawed.

There's new evidence that computer hackers could change election results without anyone knowing about it, WESH 2 News reported.

The supervisor of elections in Tallahassee tested voting machines several times over the last several months, and on Monday, his workers were able to hack into a voting machine and change the outcome. He said that same thing might have happened in Volusia County in 2000.

The big controversy revolves around a little black computer card that is smaller than a floppy disk and bigger than a flash drive. The card is inserted into voting machines that scan paper ballots. The card serves as the machine's electronic brain.

more at link below

Again, go here to watch the video: http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html


Edited to add more and correct a link

[azmouse]

1. I hope Olbermann starts to cover some of this.

It would go a long way to getting the story some more attention.

[mod mom]

2. I always forward KO info on election info, but it would help to have

many people make a concerted effort to contact Countdown and request stories!

[e-mail]

[philb]

3. Its documented 2000 election was stolen, irregardless of whether there was

also computer related hacking. The Newspaper consortium has documented that.

There were enough "legal in Florida" Gore votes that were known to be legal but rejected by the
'Official count" as "overvotes" even though it was known the butterfly ballot design(probably intentionally)
allowed people to vote for Gore twice(thousands did) to swing the elction easily in either Duval or Palm Beach county.
Likewise the butterfly design in Palm Beach counted about 3000 Gore votes from minority precincts for Buchanan. Along with thousands of legal minority voters denied ability to vote by illegal purges,
lots of known absentee ballot fraud, etc. that were enough to swing the election-
irregardless of the chad issue that was greatly publicized as a distraction because most of the
poorer(Dem) voters had to use punch card systems that had been documented to be faulty.
Many precincts in minority areas with poorly maintained machines had huge "undervote" counts.

[philb]

4. The Volusia country fraud was found out about in 2000 and that that

fraud was the main reason Bush was first wrongfully declared the victor.
After the fraudulent Volusia votes were thrown out(they did an official
approved recount since a local official disclosed the fraud), then the
Florida officials(who were also Bush campaign directors) had to find new
ways to manipulate the count to declare Bush the victor.


But there was also fraud/manipulation discovered in other counties,
like Brevard, Duval, and Gadsden.

and even more such was documented in 2004 where more switching and
manipulation occurred in Florida than any other state
http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

[OnTheOtherHand]

6. well, it didn't take a recount to throw out the bad Volusia votes

As far as I can tell from the CBS review, the bogus Volusia votes hit the VNS tallies around 2 AM, leading to a wave of bad "calls" for Bush. But the votes, and the calls, were rolled back within a few hours.

This event, whatever it was, may have given Bush some momentum, but I don't see how it was crucial to the outcome. There was never any way that a 16,000-vote swing in a single precinct was going to hold up.

[philb]

12. Gore won by a lot in Florida; but after Bush was declared the winner

wrongly, Bush rolled out a huge propaganda campaign painting Gore as a sore loser.
Don't you remember the sore loser signs and chants throughout the process.
Since such a huge majority tried to vote for Gore and his margin was so large
there was a large number of decisions by state officials, local officials, and
judges that had to go Bush's way for him to be declared the winner. That early
perception that Bush had won was used throughout the process to maintain his
needed momentum and to cover up the fact that a huge amount of manipulation was
required in order to declare Bush the victor.


That precinct in Volusia wasn't the only one where there was manipulation. I'm aware of such in Duval, Brevard,
Palm Beach, Gadsden, Hillsboro, etc.
I doubt that the 16,000 error is what Ion Sancho was talking about when he says he thinks there was manipulation in
Volusia. There likely was other such that wasn't caught.

[OnTheOtherHand]

15. it's possible that the 16K contributed to the perception

that Bush's victory was inevitable. Some folks believe that the 16K was deliberate temporary fraud, and I think that's possible, too -- I haven't tried to sort it out.

I don't think "Gore won by a lot in Florida," although I think that he should have won comfortably if ballots had been marked and counted correctly. It depends on how one interprets the overvotes, and several other things. (Then, of course, there is the voting roll purge before people even got to vote, and other efforts to keep Floridians from voting.)

The print story at http://www.wesh.com/news/5542983/detail.html is practically a transcript of the TV story; it does seem to imply that Sancho was referring to the precinct with the 16K error, but it may be inaccurate. (In fact, the story seems to conflate two distinct hacks.) I don't know whether Sancho's comments on Laura Flanders Sunday night cleared up what he was saying about 2000.

[philb]

13. dup

[bonito]

11. Another link for the 2000 election

here http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

[kster]

5. kick-n-recommended.nt

[Chicago1]

7. gee you don't say.

we the stupid would of never guessed because they think we're all asleep AND WE'RE NOT.



START THE REVOLUTION!!!!

[IndyOp]

8. To: MB - Thanks! To Corporate Media:

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Hysterical laughter!

[redacted]

9. Can anybody get the video to play?

I can't. If anybody has a working link different from the one referenced above, please post it. Thanks.

[Wilms]

10. I'm using a FireFox browser, and it worked for me. n/t

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14. Macintosh & Linux users need to use this URL instead:

mms://a1811.v128902.c12890.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1811/12890/v0001/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1216/5546676.200k.wmv