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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:11 AM
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DU this poll!
Do you trust Diebold to count your votes in secret?

right column on this page:

http://solarbus.org/election
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:12 AM
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1. Done. 5 votes, 100% NO.
But it's a liberal site, so it's kinda preaching to the choir.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:15 AM
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2. voted... kicked...
"Fish... Barrell... Boom!"
-Will Pitt
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:34 AM
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3. Voted NO
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:36 AM
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4. 3 people voted yes ?!?!
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:43 AM
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5. done
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:39 AM
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6. As of 11:39 est:
Yes : 6.33% 6.33% 5
No : 93.67% 93.67% 74
Not sure : 0.00% 0.00% 0
Total 100% 79
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:09 PM
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7. Do you trust Sequoia, ES&S, etc. ?
I think we need to help people realize that Diebold isn't the only problem.

DRE's and OpScan are vulnerable no matter who makes them.

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:38 PM
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8. i agree in principle, however
Diebold is the "hot button" with name recognition that gets people hooked. Most people have heard of Diebold already... and i personally think that if we focus on one thing, we can accomplish more than if we spread our efforts. If we can topple Diebold, the others will fall. Anything that happens to them sets a precedent. I think for newbies it's good to talk about Diebold alot but when people learn more they find out about the others. as you know, my focus is always on newbies, so I tend to talk up Diebold the most. I also think diebold is the most vulnerable because they've been scrutinized the most, they have the most recognition, and they have the Wally Odell quote. they are doomed, if we don't give up. which ain't going to happen. they're going down.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:03 PM
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9. I notice "newbie" Diebold commentary in the other forums.
And the posts are overly simplistic.

There is a danger there.

"WooHoo, Diebold bails on NC." Great. So Sequoia (for instance) comes in and does what?

There wasn't a lot of Diebold equipment in Ohio 2004, yet you hear a lot of "Diebold stole it".

It's inaccurate, and that makes our argument easy to dismiss by sub-newbies (in my unhumble opinion).

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:33 AM
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10. if
if sequoia came in to NC now, they would have to open their source code. don't count on it.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:52 AM
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11. but then again
I just read that NC has certified Diebold anyway. Go figure.
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