Monday Morning Press Conf: "Shocking" Election Practices to be Revealed

[Bill Bored]

Please keep kicked!:

Monday Morning Press Conference: "Shocking" Election Practices to be
Revealed

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who has been one of the few elected
officials from either major party championing accountable elections,
will have a press conference tomorrow morning (Monday July 18th) to
reveal "shocking findings on Diebold Election Systems and the fraud and
gross incompetence that has taken place in Georgia elections."

When: Monday July 18th, 10am.

Where: The office of Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney
North DeKalb Mall, Suite D-46,
2050 Lawrenceville Hwy,
Decatur, Georgia 30033

[Oversea Visitor]

1. n/t

:kick: In Memory of Andy

[Erika]

2. The Diebold CEO said he would deliver the election to W

and he did.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Wow

Any idea of what this could be about? I just adore McKinney. She's one of the best and she and I are on the same level in politics. That's one thing I really like about her. :D Someone should post this in the GD forum for more people to see! Please tell us what happens!

[Bill Bored]

6. Well, the way it SHOULD be is that GD should have to post

their stuff HERE for more people to see! :)
But I stuck a link over there.

Tomorrow we should post something on LBN, even if WE are the ORIGINAL SOURCE!

[aquart]

4. kick

[LiberalVoice]

5. Kick

:kick:

[HardWorkingDem]

11. I love that picture of Dean...(sorry, bit unrelated)..

I'd love to get a huge framed picture of that....any idea where I could get one? Every time I see it I can see both his strength and sensitivity.

[LiberalVoice]

56. Well the picture came from the New York Metro...

I went to their site but didn't have much success finding out how you could get a blown up picture of it.

[CoffeeCat]

7. I love McKinney because Bush snubbed her...

Did anyone else notice after one of Bush's state-of-the-union addresses--that he snubbed McKinney?

It was subtle, but it was there in plain sight.

After his speech, members of the House and Senate were shaking hands and making cordial remarks. McKinney was smiling and being gracious. Junior snubbed her. She remained diplomatic.

After seeing the snub, I remembered that McKinney had recently been on tv (I think it was Nightline), discussing the high numbers of soldiers in her state who died in Iraq. She gave a commanding speech about the cost of the war and she questioned the war.

Bush's snub always haunted me a bit. It showed Junior's frat-boy mentality and it demonstrated his sneering, oppressive attitude toward anyone who DARES to question him or disagree with him.

I can only imagine the oppression that other Dems, members of the media and other government officials have experienced with these sick people.

I'm sure they regularly ruin people for looking at them sideways.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Oh of course

I'm sure Bush knows all about McKinney. That's probably why they tried to keep her out of Congress that one time. But they failed because her district is obviously happy with her and I'm grateful for them as well. Hopefully whatever this news is can help with everything else going on.
I hope we never lose her, John Conyers, Jim McDermott, Debbie Schultz, Louise Slaughter, Tim Ryan, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Dennis Kucinich. There are so many amazing people on our side. I treasure them all and thank God for them all the time. I can't wait to find out what this is!!

[HardWorkingDem]

12. Remember when...

she made a lot of claims that people scoffed at and later came true? At one point she made claims that our government had more information on the 9/11 hijackers than it was revealing. I remember there was a head hunt for her, then came the 9/11 commission with revelations that ended up being just as she said.

She's a wonderful person.

[burrowowl]

8. Viva McKinney!

Viva the Black Caucus!
Dean et al support the Black Caucus! NOT DLCers!

[endarkenment]

21. indeed

it has been the black caucus that has stood proudly and steadfastly on the side of truth and justice for the last four years of terror-induced mass-lobotomy.

[WHAT]

62. Indeed...

I am so glad McKinney was re-elected. I don't think we could have regained a voice for democracy without the black caucus. I hope some day they're honoured in the history books.

[fooj]

10. "Shocking"...

This should be interesting...

peace.

[brettdale]

13. Kick

Kick

[sojourner]

14. mm-hmm....

Wonder if this could involve that little file that BBV found in Diebold info (was it company emails that refered to the data or the actual data? -- I forget), entitled "rob georgia" that had the program for stealing votes from dems and assigning to repug? I have been waiting FOREVER for someone in a position to do something about this to mention it in public.

[liberalla]

15. Can't wait to hear more about these findings!

woo hoo!

[babylonsister]

16. Go, Ms. McKinney! This week

may prove to be very interesting-can't wait!

[ClayZ]

17. Kick

:kick:



:popcorn:

[Time for change]

18. Cynthia McKinney is great

Not only is she in the forefront of election reform.

She is apparently the only person in Congress who finds it odd that the United States, which spends billions every year on defense, is incapable of defending its own capital against an attack from an airplane -- at least the only one who will publicly say so.

[rosesaylavee]

19. What does this mean for counties using Diebold

Wonder how this will effect counties that have recently voted approval for Diebold? Our county is one of the collar Republican counties outside Chicago. Diebold severely underbid here because they wanted to make us an example for the rest of the country. Yikes. Fortunately our state requires a paper ballot trail and chose the higher priced eSlate instead.

[IndyOp]

28. Welcome to DU rosesaylavee!

Yeah for your state requiring a paper ballot trail!

:hi:

[suziedemocrat]

20. Kick - also ths out - US wanted to covertly influence Iraqi elections

from: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N17209840.htm

(If they think about influencing other countries elections, is it such a stretch to think they would try to influence our elections?)

WASHINGTON, July 17 (Reuters) - The Bush administration proceeded last year over congressional objections with a covert plan to try to influence Iraqi elections in January, the New Yorker magazine reported, citing unnamed current and former officials.

The article, by award-winning journalist Seymour Hersh, said "the methods and the scope of the covert effort have been hard to discern," and the report offered few details.

These activities were kept, in part, "off the books," and were conducted by retired CIA officers and other non-government personnel, and "used funds that were not necessarily appropriated by Congress," Hersh reported.

.....

Instead of the covert operation, the Bush administration informed Congress that it would provide overt training and advice to Iraqi political parties deemed to be moderate and democratic.

.....

Congressional sources said the covert election plan was scuttled after objections were raised by Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader in the House of Representatives.

[mod mom]

22. while we are waiting, let's recap this little tidbit from Ohio:

(Ohio)Probe focuses on donation to GOP (Diebold bribes?)

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/ba...

Election official says he was offered $10,000

Columbus - A member of the Franklin County election board said Friday that prosecutors are investigating whether a GOP political consultant tried to bribe the board's director to buy voting equipment made by his client, Diebold Inc.

The director, Matthew Damschroder, has told prosecutors that the consultant, Pat Gallina, came to his office in early 2004, offering him $10,000.

"Pat Gallina came into my office at the Board of Elections and said, 'I'm here to give you $10,000. Who should I direct it to?' " Damschroder recalled. "I said, 'Certainly not to me. But I'm sure the Franklin County Republican Party would appreciate a voluntary donation. That was my first mistake."

The law prohibits Damschroder from accepting political contributions on county property. He said he took the check home and mailed it to the party, where he had just completed a stint as executive director...

[Bill Bored]

55. another broken link

The ads work though!

If you put your links in <these brackets>, they will
work!

[mod mom]

57. try this link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1632050

[Bill Bored]

68. Got it! Is this one of the stories they were afraid to print? nt

[IdaBriggs]

23. Kick! nt

[cyberpj]

24. Will this be on Cspan 1, 2 or 3 or anywhere at all we can hear it? nt.

[Chi]

25. I just went looking and couldn't find anything either n/t 8(

[MelissaB]

26. I'm wondering, too. n/t

[mod mom]

27. anticipation.....nt

[kster]

29. kick.nt

[autorank]

30. Great post. She's a tiger. What do you do with an aggressvie, smart

female politician. You damn well listen!!

A comprehensive explanation of fraud--text and key links

[AtLiberty]

31. I just called her office in Georgia...

A press release is being released shortly on her webpage. The staff person did say that McKinney emphasized that what she was talking about affected elections nationwide.

I urge all of you to call her office/s with your support.

Btw, does anyone know her webpage? The house.gov/McKinney appears to be temporary with just generic info on the homepage.

[cyberpj]

32. -

[MelissaB]

33. Her page is here:

http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/

News items here: http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/news.html

I poked around there earlier. Look at the press release (I think that's what it was) almost a year ago today.

[bettyellen]

35. her press office will email a copy or press release if you call them

404 633 0927

within the next hour, they said.
was not sure when / if it would be posted on which site.

[emcguffie]

38. has anybody found it?

I can't find anything. And both of her websites look as if they haven't been touched since the election.

[bettyellen]

39. nothing yet.

there's a post below with a list of technical problems.
i posted the number and they took my e-mail address. i also signed up on her site.
but i'm getting out of here, soon. :)

[Fly by night]

34. I also contacted her DC office staffer ...

(Hugh Esco) and asked that he post her press release on DU or send it to me and I would post it. Hopefully we'll all see what she has to say sooner than later. Rep. McKinney was our closing speaker at the National Election Reform Conference and she was DYNO-MITE!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

36. Go, Cynthia!

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0528/050713_news_andy.php

[Boredtodeath]

37. Here's just part of it

We're working to get video and more documents online as fast as we can.

Georgia's elections have been fraught with massive problems from day one and election officials have hidden the problems from the voters.

Georgia's election officials sought to protect Diebold instead of the voters.

The first document is a list of bugs and failures experienced in Georgia's 2002 election:
http://www.countthevote.org/ga_contract/ga_dec_02_punch_list.html

None of which have been resolved to date, much less in time for the 2004 election.

[FogerRox]

40. McKinney just flat out rox -- thats the 7th CD-- right? ---- ?

SAw her on TV in the NJ/ NY area she talked about operation Northwoods.

[Boredtodeath]

41. No, Georgia's 4th Congressional District

I believe.

[Boredtodeath]

42. Documents now available online

Mr. Sam Barber of American Computer Technologies, Inc. has filed a federal lawsuit against Diebold. ACT was originally a Minority Owned Business contacted by Diebold to subcontract the Acceptance Testing of the Diebold system. When they discovered Mr. Barber really intended to test the equipment as prescribed by computer science, they threw him off the contract.

What they WANTED Mr. Barber's company to do was assemble the 2 pieces of equipment and CALL it acceptance testing. When he refused, he was dismissed by Diebold in McKinney, TX.

Documents now available:

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Moreland) Nov. 19, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_moreland_11-19-02.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 2, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_urosevich_12-02-02.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Moreland) January 30, 2003:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_moreland_01-30-03.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 3, 2002 (bug list attached):
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_urosevich_12-03-02.pdf

Diebold response to Georgia RFP listing ACT as subcontractor:
Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 2, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/diebold_act_rfp_response.pdf

Original RFP response from Diebold including ACT as a MOB:
(Microsoft Word doc)
http://www.countthevote.org/evote_docs/v.phaseiiitem2oftechpropfinal.doc

Video soon.

[MelissaB]

43. Thanks for posting this, but the links aren't working for me.

[Boredtodeath]

44. Sorry, fixed. Here they are again, repaired

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Moreland) Nov. 19, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_moreland_11-19-02.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 2, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_urosevich_12-02-02.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Moreland) January 30, 2003:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_moreland_01-30-03.pdf

Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 3, 2002 (bug list attached):
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/cox_urosevich_12-03-02.pdf

Diebold response to Georgia RFP listing ACT as subcontractor:
Georgia SoS letter to Diebold (Urosevich) December 2, 2002:
http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/diebold_act_rfp_response.pdf

Original RFP response from Diebold including ACT as a MOB:
(Microsoft Word doc)
http://www.countthevote.org/evote_docs/v.phaseiiitem2oftechpropfinal.doc

[Amaryllis]

45. is there one link that lists all the docs on one page?

[Boredtodeath]

50. Here you are

http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/list.htm

[FreedomAngel82]

46. Oh wow

So this could show us what happened with Ohio.

[Bill Bored]

47. This is the crux of it!

Note the problems with vote switching, the Summary Screens, the difficulty with scrolling through the Summary Screen, the obsolete cards with inadequate memory, the lack of training of state and county election officials, the problems with absentee voting, lack of tech support, inadequate logic and accuracy testing, and so on.

All this time GA's SOS was saying how great everything was!

There also seems to be uncertified software at work in these machines, possibly even now!

But I'll let the local GA experts and the Congresswoman explain it to y'all!

BTW, BoredToDeath and I are not related (and neither are Wally O'Dell of Diebold and Bruce O'Dell of USCountVotes) but I think it's fair to say we all share some common interests!

[riqster]

48. When can we Get Rep. McKinney's statement?

[Bill Bored]

49. Sorry but this is all I've been given so far.

But when it comes out, I'd like someone to post it on LBN, OK?

[FogerRox]

51. I would consider moving to Atlanta jjust to vote for her--

& to work in her campaign in 1 1/2 years

Book marked and recomended

[Amaryllis]

61. What am I missing? I read the docs and it just looks like the usual

incompetence and breakdown, malfunction, screw up stuff that Harris and Screw ups by vendor on Voters Unite talks about.

[Boredtodeath]

63. Breaking the law is "usual incompetence?"

From the Punch List:
23 At least 5 county servers failed prior to Election Day. While server repairs were made, there is evidence to suggest that additional servers were not working properly (Example: blank cd's received from counties were supposed to contain final election results).

21-2-500. Delivery of voting materials; presentation to grand jury in certain cases; preservation and destruction; destruction of unused ballots.

(a) Immediately upon completing the returns required by this article, in the case of elections other than municipal elections, the superintendent shall deliver in sealed containers to the clerk of the superior court or, if designated by the clerk of the superior court, to the county records manager or other office or officer under the jurisdiction of a county governing authority which maintains or is responsible for records, as provided in Code Section 50-18-99, the used and void ballots and the stubs of all ballots used; one copy of the oaths of poll officers; and one copy of each numbered list of voters, tally paper, voting machine paper proof sheet, and return sheet involved in the primary or election. In addition, the superintendent shall deliver copies of the voting machine and vote recorder ballot labels, computer chips containing ballot tabulation programs, copies of computer records of ballot design, computer programming decks for ballot tabulation programs, and similar items or an electronic record of the program by which votes are to be recorded or tabulated, which is captured prior to the election, and which is stored on some alternative medium such as a CD-ROM or floppy disk simultaneously with the burning of the PROM or other memory storage device. The clerk, county records manager, or the office or officer designated by the clerk shall hold such ballots and other documents under seal, unless otherwise directed by the superior court, for at least 24 months, after which time they shall be presented to the grand jury for inspection at its next meeting. Such ballots and other documents shall be preserved in the office of the clerk, county records manager, or officer designated by the clerk until the adjournment of such grand jury, and then they may be destroyed, unless otherwise provided by order of the superior court.

[Amaryllis]

64. Missed that...I didn't read it thoroughly.

[Cookie wookie]

67. These documents are damning!

Certainly the voters of the state of Georgia were misled into believing that the SOS, Kennesaw and the Elections Division were following state code and abiding by all their talking points about how they were securing these paperless electronic elections. But they weren't. We now have enough evidence that we can justifiably assert that we don't know who really won in 2002.

Most damning, we find that on January 30, 2003, 2+ months after the November 2002 election ("Cox_Moreland_01-30-03) that the state voted on a Diebold system that was not state certified, and it wasn't even state certified by january 2003. That's against the law in Georgia.

Cox told me in Feb or March of 2004 that testing was done at Kennesaw right after the 2002 election because an uncertified patch was put on the system. She said there was one and it wasn't a patch to the GEMS software, and that Kennesaw had determined -- after we voted -- that everything was fine. There was a whistle blower who said there were more than one and that they were downloaded from the internet in the summer of 2002 (mentioned in Vanity Fair, April 2004, "Hack the Vote").

Now documents surface showing the opposite, with Cox's signature or the SOS letterhead attached. Not only that, but now we can go back to the AJC archives and pull quotes from Cox, Brit Williams, and Election Division officials and compare them to what was really going on as evidenced by these letters. It will show a pattern of misrepresenting to the public what was really going on.

In "cox_moreland_11-19-02" we find confirmation that Diebold was running the election in 2002 and had provided "technically and practically flawed" training before the election so that Diebold's "service bureau" services (creating databases and generating ballots, etc.) was mandatory to be able to conduct the election.

Voters should trust a for profit corporation to be creating the databases, creating the ballot definition files, and basically running their elections, because the poll workers and supervisors don't know how to do it? No way. That is a breach of trust of the voters that our elected officials who are responsible for our voting are protecting our right to vote and have our vote counted as we intended. That's now being demonstrated in the materials that McKinney revealed.

"cox_moreland_01_30_03" says there were memory problems.

"cox-urosevich 12_02_02" introduces a list Cox of serious problems with the DREs.

"cox _urosevich_12-03-02" introduces the "punch list," which links that list to the SOS.

[Bill Bored]

70. This is all good stuff but it needs to be put together by a journalist

for the benefit of non-Georgians, as well as Georgians who don't yet know the details. I hope you find one!

And let's make sure the memos aren't printed in the wrong fonts too! :)

[jim3775]

52. Remember what happened the last time there was a press conference...

about election fraud?

[Boredtodeath]

53. Can you be more specific?

I'm drawing a blank here.

[jim3775]

66. Back in 2001 Dems were holding a big press conference...

on voting fraud in Florida. It was scheduled for the morning of 9/11.

[Bill Bored]

69. I don't think this is true.

The articles that showed Gore won FL were printed on or about November 11, 2001 and were based on the U. Chicago study completed around that time. The media investigations of this did not come out at that time either. They were done prior to 9/11. If you have anything definitive on or about 9/11, please post. Thanks!

[TheUnspeakable]

54. Cynthia McKinney......

:loveya: :yourock: :loveya: :yourock: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :yourock: :yourock: :loveya: :loveya: :yourock:

[goclark]

58. Rock it Cynthia! Rock it All Day and All NIght!

YOU are a patriot!

[Liberty Belle]

59. Can't wait to see it; maybe we can stop CA from

buying more Diebold.

[Fly by night]

60. Nothing released yet from today's press conference.

I spoke with Rep. McKinney's Atlanta office, who suggested that I send her press officer an email requesting the press release. They will send it to me when it is available and I will post it if it has not been posted yet.

The email address for her press officer is: [e-mail]

If anyone gets the press release before I do, please post it and PM me. Thanks.

[Bill Bored]

65. Look here:

http://www.countthevote.org/

Monday, July 18, 2005

"Shocking" Election Practices Revealed in Georgia

Rep. Cynthia Mc Kinney concluded a press conference this morning on the Diebold Company's performance in the Georgia elections. For E-voting activists, Georgia is the ground zero of the entire Vote Hacking bomb.

What so many fail to grasp in this issue is that it is more about top-down control than a partisan issue. In Georgia, for example, many Democratic Party officials, particularly the Secretary of State, have doggedly pursued the Diebold systems despite evidence of the ease of changing results and other programming anomalies.

What McKinnney's office has just released is a group of documents that lend the visible evidence necessary to take this issue out of the hands of conspiracy theorists, and put it in the public purview of government officials. The first flickers of a problem appeared in the public mind with the election of Gov. Sonny Perdue with an unaccounted for 11 point swing overnight in the voting publics voting preference. Perdue was the first Republican Governor elected in Georgia since the reconstruction.

Georgia's elections have been fraught with massive problems from day one and election officials have hidden the problems from the voters.

Georgia's election officials sought to protect Diebold instead of the voters.

The first document is a list of bugs and failures experienced in Georgia's 2002 election, none of which have been resolved to date, much less in time for the 2004 election.

Mr. Sam Barber of American Computer Technologies, Inc. has filed a federal lawsuit against Diebold. ACT was originally a Minority Owned Business contacted by Diebold to subcontract the Acceptance Testing of the Diebold system. When they discovered Mr. Barber really intended to test the equipment as prescribed by computer science, they threw him off the contract.

What they WANTED Mr. Barber's company to do was assemble the 2 pieces of equipment and CALL it acceptance testing. When he refused, he was dismissed by Diebold in McKinney, TX.

Documents now available: http://www.countthevote.org/cynthia_2005/list.htm