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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:43 PM
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Rob Georgia Patch
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 05:47 PM by AmyCrat
This is the first I've heard of the (on AAR)...

So I looked it up...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00078.htm
(snip)
What was the program patch known as rob-georgia.zip used for? What were they doing with that ftp site, anyway? Hang in for the first part of this article, the finger-pointing and obfuscating part, because it concludes with a straightforward explanation of what went on in Georgia that has never been made public before.


http://blogs.salon.com/0001490/2003/02/21.html
(snip)
According to Salon.com, Diebold Election Systems, now denies that a program patch was ever applied to the Georgia voting machines: "We have analyzed that situation and have no indication of that happening at all."
Well okay. But did everyone in the Georgia Secretary of State's Office imagine this last-minute voting program fix?


Anyone heard of this?
Opinions?
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:45 PM
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1. It's old news.
From midterms I think.
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:48 PM
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2. Old news - but never properly explained.
And therefore relevant to this election. My opinion is that the "rob" in question is someone's name - but probably there are people with differing opinions. No question: The whole deal in Georgia 2002 stunk.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:58 PM
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4. I remember from Bev's book
it appeared that "rob" had to do with the name of the Diebold employee that she interviewed but then discovered that the file was named "rob.georgia" weeks before Rob was hired as far as he can recall.

Things that make ya go hmmmmm...
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:18 PM
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6. Hmm, is right.
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 06:18 PM by mountebank
Still, it's pretty hard to believe that even repukes would be so daft as to name their fraud file "rob.georgia." But who knows? Did anyone ever fully analyze what that file contained?

EDIT: spelling
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ftlaudguy Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:54 PM
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3. Bout two years old
From what I have read (a while ago) it indeed was a patch, that was needed at the last minute to try and fix these machines in GA that were seriously messed up. Something like 25% of them would not even boot up properly...brand new from the manufacturer.

Anyhow, this technician, whose name was Rob, had a helluva time trying to get these machines up and running for that 2002 election. According to him, this was a patch that they put on their FTP site, so they could download onto a laptop, and then apply to the cards (which in addition to counting votes, also acted as kind of a bios update for the machines).

Anyhow, as I heard today on RRhodes, whether the file was a "noun" or a "verb" is still the subject of much speculation. In any event, the idea that this patch was available on a public site and anyone could download it (and diebolds entire "system") speaks volumes about their concern and procedures for "security."
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:00 PM
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5. Does anyone remember the story from about 3 weeks before
this election that said something about various untested patches being applied to FL Diebold machines? I think it was during a pre-election test (that failed BTW). I'm googling now.
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ftlaudguy Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:20 PM
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7. Yes
ES&S had a "patch" to prevent he machines from counting backwards, as they did in several cases. Glenda Hood, our Repuke SOE, refused the patch....she didn't want anything to do with it.
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:25 PM
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8. Rob Behler...
....was the guy in Georgia it was made for. If memory serves me correctly, it was a pre-release version they were testing...
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ftlaudguy Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:29 PM
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9. Yes
The story, with Rob's transcript between he and Bev Harris, is there in the first link in the first post of this thread....scroll down a while to read it all. That's the transcript that I originally read a couple of years ago, just re-presented in this story from scoop.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:44 PM
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10. Information on Rob Behler and Georgia 2002 election
re: uncertified patches applied the summer of 2002 prior to the General Election in which Clelland lost to Chambliss can be found in Vanity Fair magazine, April 2004, "Hack the Vote," by Michael Shyayerson. Haven't found a copy online.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:45 PM
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11. Interview with Behler is also online at
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:04 PM
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12. Scoop is AltheCat site
he's posting on the thread next to yours. He can answer your questions clearly. Most of us here a while, are very aware of it.
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