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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:50 AM
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What does this dropping approval rating say about who REALLY won election?
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 09:54 AM by Amaryllis
This has been a common theme on DU, but this new poll shows approval steadily dropping on many fronts. He went in with a low rating, indicating a fraudulent election, and it keeps getting lower. I know it would be a whole lot lower if the media told the truth; if everyone has access to the REAL news, like we do, but even with media bias, it continues to drop on nearly all fronts. The rest of the article goes on to address a number of other areas besides the nuclear option and SS.

I don't want the Dems to compromise on ANY of this; they've already compromised far too much, and these guys weren't really elected in the first place. What do you guys think?


Filibuster Rule Change Opposed

By Richard Morin and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, April 26, 2005; Page A01

As the Senate moves toward a major confrontation over judicial appointments, a strong majority of Americans oppose changing the rules to make it easier for Republican leaders to win confirmation of President Bush's court nominees, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll.

GOP leaders are threatening a rule change to prohibit the use of filibusters to block judicial nominees and have stepped up their criticism of the Democrats for using the tactic on some of Bush's nominees to the federal appellate courts. They say they are prepared to invoke what has become known as the "nuclear option" to ensure that Bush's nominees receive an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor.

But by a 2 to 1 ratio, the public rejected easing Senate rules in a way that would make it harder for Democratic senators to prevent final action on Bush's nominees. Even many Republicans were reluctant to abandon current Senate confirmation procedures: Nearly half opposed any rule changes, joining eight in 10 Democrats and seven in 10 political independents, the poll found.

The wide-ranging survey also recorded a precipitous decline in support for the centerpiece of Bush's Social Security plan -- private or personal accounts -- despite the fact that the president and other administration officials have been stumping the country in a 60-day blitz to mobilize support. The Post-ABC poll found that a bare majority -- 51 percent -- opposed such accounts, while 45 percent supported them.
More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2004/10/26/AR2005032201677.html
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:08 AM
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2. Can you say
ELECTION FRAUD?
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:19 AM
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3. Current polls
say nothing about the election. I hope the Democrats don't cave, either, but I'm afraid they know it's going to destroy them if they don't. Maybe I should say, I hope they didn't have to cave.

They will though. They have to. Regardless of whether election fraud put the current occupants in office, they are in office, and that's what counts.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:20 AM
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4. It's going to destroy them if they DO cave. So they might as well not.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:27 AM
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5. They've pretty
much painted themselves into a corner. But realistically, they had it coming. It never pays to make threats that you can't back up.

Luke 14: 28-32

28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.

31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.

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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:08 AM
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6. polls directly after the election weren't so supportive, either



cnn -- a week or two after the election....
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:46 PM
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7. It's in all polls, on all issues, and consistent over time:
And it's even more glaring than the polls mentioned above. For instance, Feb. '05: 63% of Americans oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Big numbers--60% to 70%--on the war, on the occupation, on the deficit, on top of Bush's dismal approval ratings, before and after the so-called election.

The Bush Cartel DOES NOT REPRESENT the majority of Americans.

It's driving me nuts that the Democrats will not connect the dots.

They have got to call this government out for the fraud that it is! Because if they don't, and if they don't help us repair our election system NOW, it's just going to keep on like this, with the Bush Cartel grabbing more and more illegitmate power, shoving more and more outrageous, fascist policies down the throats of the American people, and completely ignoring and scoffing at public opinion. What do they care? They have control of the electronic voting machines and can "re-elect" themselves forever more.

They DON'T CARE! Doesn't that TELL the Democrats something?

Jeez...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:05 PM
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8. ...but, you know, for some of the corrupt, pro-war, or "bubble"-living...
...Democrats (bubble of money and power; above us all), it's a bit convenient to have these maniacs running the government. They can look good by merely defending Social Security (with lip service), not by expanding and enhancing protections for the poor and middle class, and seeing to the country's health care system, and a living wage, and so on. They just have to be against looting Social Security to prop up the stock market. And they can even benefit personally, when it is looted--and benefit all their rich donors--and go on pretending that they are Democrats in the "big tent" Party.

As with the war. They can have all of the benefits of war in the Middle East, and none of the blame.

And some of them, I'm sure, have guaranteed seats at this pigsty--as the little piglets of the "minority" party.

I keep presuming--as most us here do--that the Democrats care more about the will of the majority of Americans than the Bush Cartel does. But it's becoming clearer every day that many of them do not.

Who are these Democratic leaders that I appeal to, to connect the dots? Are they a myth?

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