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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:40 AM
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Remember Delay's comments on Jan. 6th??
Remember how nasty he was during the challenge of the OH Electoral votes? Well, I remember. Oh, I remember like it was yesterday. His self-righteous indignation at the nerve of the Dems asking for an investigation - oh, he made me want to vomit.

Well, it seems as though Delay has been linked to the Schiavo memo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3439509#3440519

I urge all of you to help remove this obstacle to election reform. And don't have any doubt - he's an obstacle.

1. Call your Congress critters toll free at 866-808-0065. Tell them that it's time for Delay to resign.

2. Sign petitions for his removal:
http://ga3.org/campaign/withoutdelay/

3. Email your Congress critters by going to this site:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

4. Email his corporate sponsors to drop him:
http://www.dropthehammer.org/

5. Mail a summary of actions against Delay to your Congress critters:
http://www.citizensforethics.org/filelibrary/summary_delay2.pdf

6. Alert the media:
http://www.democrats.org/media/index.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:46 AM
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1. Done
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:51 AM
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2. Thanks - it was his Jan 6th comments that pushed me over the edge
He acted as though we were traitors for trying to challenge the OH votes. I vowed then and there to watch all of them and do what I can to get rid of them legally.

They should have never messed with the votes.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:55 AM
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3. Tom DeLay pushed me over the edge the first time I laid my eyes
...on the creep! We have Tom Feeney here in Central Florida who is of the same ilk and needs to be defrocked also.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:59 AM
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4. I'm sure that Feeney is no fan of election reform either
Oh, yes. They all need to go, the whole lot of them.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:06 PM
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7. Oh Yeah! I sure remember Feeney! Birds of a feather I'd say!
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 12:07 PM by Catamount
Nominated -second for greatest!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:54 PM
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10. Research on Feeney bears it out
Feeney is a weeeneeee!!!
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:57 AM
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27. DeLay's comments on Jan. 6: HERE THEY ARE.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 11:58 AM by Zan_of_Texas
Here are his remarks in their entirety.
Mods -- official government record -- not copyrighted.
(I have added boldface.)

(Debate on the challenge to the Ohio presidential electors)
January 6, 2005
Congressional Record - House
H121-122
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2005_record&page=H121&position=all

JOHN CONYERS {closing comments}

Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I want
to thank all the Members of the House
who have stayed here with us, who
have participated in the debate, who
have shared their views, as different as
many of them are, because this is the
way we work.
This debate, I think we all know, will
not change the outcome of the November
election. But we do know that out
of today’s debate, the Congress will respond
to the challenge that has been
raised here in connection with a better
system of voting, not just for Ohio but
for everywhere. A challenge has been
raised here this afternoon to hold true
bipartisan hearings to get to the bottom
of not just what went wrong in
Ohio but around the Nation on Election
Day. This day, the first time in
our history, that since 1877 this law has
been used in which the Senate and the
House have come together to say that
an objection has enough merit to keep
us here in this discussion.
Join us. Enact real election reform
and give the citizens the right to an operative
provisional ballot and give all
voters a verifiable paper trail. We
should never fear this debate in the
Congress, and I hope that today we
have a fair debate and that 4 years
from now, Mr. Speaker, we have an
election that all our citizens can be
proud of.

TOM DELAY
Mr. DELAY. Mr. Speaker, I rise to
claim the remainder of the time.
The SPEAKER. The gentleman from
Texas is recognized for the remainder
of the time.
Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Mr. Speaker,
can I ask how much time that is?
The SPEAKER. In the tradition of
the House, the gentleman from Texas
is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. DELAY. Mr. Speaker, what is
happening here today is amazing but
not surprising. Mr. Speaker, what we
are witnessing here today is a shame. A
shame. The issues at stake in this petition
are gravely, gravely serious. This
is not just having a debate. But the
specific charges, as any objective observer
must acknowledge, are not.
That is because the purpose of this petition
is not justice but noise.
It is a warning to Democrats across
the country, now in the midst of soul
searching after their historic losses in
November, not to moderate their party’s
message.
It is just the second day of the 109th
Congress and the first chance of the
Democrat congressional leadership to
show the American people what they
have learned since President Bush’s
historic reelection, and they can show
that, but they have turned to what
might be called the ‘‘X-Files Wing’’ of
the Democrat Party to make their first
impression.

Rather than substantive debate,
Democrat leaders are still adhering to
a failed strategy of spite, obstruction,
and conspiracy theories. They accuse
the President, who we are told is apparently
a closet computer nerd, of
personally overseeing the development
of vote-stealing software.
We are told, without any evidence,
that unknown Republican agents stole
the Ohio election and that its electoral
votes should be awarded to the winner
of an exit poll instead.
Many observers will discard today’s
petition as a partisan waste of time,
but it is much worse than that. It is an
assault against the institutions of our
representative democracy. It is a
threat to the very ideals it ostensibly
defends.
No one is served by this petition,
not in the long run. And in the
short term, its only beneficiaries are
its proponents themselves.
Democrats around the country have
asked since Election Day, and will no
doubt ask again today, how it came to
this. The Democrat Party, the party
that was once an idealistic, forward-
looking, policy colossus. The New Deal,
the Marshall Plan, the Great Society,
the space program, civil rights. And
yet today one is hard pressed to find a
single positive substantive idea coming
from the left.
Instead, the Democrats have replaced
statecraft with stagecraft, substance
with style, and not a very fashionable
style at that. The petitioners claim
that they act on behalf of
disenfranchised voters, but no such
voter disenfranchisement occurred in
this election of 2004 and for that matter
the election of 2000.

Everybody knows it.
The voters
know it, the candidates know it, the
courts know it, and the evidence proves
it.
We are not here to debate evidence,
but to act our roles in some scripted,
insincere morality play.
Now, just remember: pre-election
memos revealed that Democrat campaign
operatives around the country
were encouraged by their high command
in Washington to charge voter
fraud and intimidation regardless of
whether any of it occurred. Remember,
neither of the Democrat candidates
supposedly robbed in Ohio endorse this
petition. It is a crime against the dignity
of American democracy, and that
crime is not victimless.
The Democrat leadership came down
to the floor and said this is a good debate;
we ought to be having a debate on
this issue.
This is not a normal debate. This is a
direct attack to undermine our democracy
by using a procedure to undermine
the constitutional election that
was just held.
If, as now appears likely, Democrats
cry fraud and corruption every election
regardless of the evidence, what will
happen when one day voters are routinely
intimidated, rights are denied,
or, God forbid, an election is robbed?
What will happen? What will happen
when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying
wolf so poisons our democratic
processes that a similarly frivolous petition
in a close election in the future
is actually successful, and the American
people are denied their constitutional
right to choose their own President?


Mr. Speaker, Democrats must find a
way to rise above this self-destructive
and, yes, plain destructive theory of
politics for its own sake. A dangerous
precedent is being set here today, and
it needs to be curbed, because Democrat
leaders are not just hurting themselves.
By their irresponsible tactics,
they hurt the House, they hurt the Nation,
and they hurt rank-and-file
Democrats at kitchen tables all around
this country.
The American people, and their ancestors
who invented our miraculous
system of government, deserve better
than this. This petition is beneath us,
Mr. Speaker; but, more importantly, it
is beneath the men and women that we
serve.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues,
both Democrat and Republican, to do
the right thing. Vote ‘‘no,’’ and let us
get back to the real work that the
American people hired us to do.
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:03 AM
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5. Nominated for
Greatest page
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:25 AM
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6. Thanks - this man is a disgrace
but he has messed with the votes and he should be removed for that alone, IMHO!
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:21 PM
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8. Done - thanks! n/t
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:32 PM
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9. Did anyone catch his comments just now?
He just finished talking on Cspan & now Lamar Smith is substituting for him. Big rant about the dreaded activist judges, fairly threatening (in the legislative realm).
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:16 PM
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11. this guy reminds me of
those creatures in the horror movies that keep coming back no matter how many times they get shot or stabbed or run over, and every time they come back they're worse than before. can someone please put this monster out of his misery? And by the way is it even remotely possible that he was legitimately re-elected?
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:27 PM
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12. I've been wondering about his election
Ever since I've been educated about election fraud, I've wondered about Delay.

And he is like the monster who can't be killed.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:22 AM
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20. Ah, but we have powerful allies in the republic now
Specifically, the republicans, who now have him in their rifle sites. He is the sacrificial lamb.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:50 AM
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22. may he be the first domino to fall n/t
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 08:55 AM
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25. tavalon, do you know of any repub leaders who we could contact?
I'd love to know if there are any who we could target.

McCain maybe?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:30 AM
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26. KKKarl Rove, of course.
It isn't the rank and file who've put out a hit on this guy (though I'm sure more congresscritters then not hate the bugman), it's the White House, which as you know, is Rove and Cheney.

And if the media is now allowed to trash him, then the hit is a done deal.

It's good to let the Repug. congresscritters know how you feel about it but they won't listen to you any more then they ever have before. The order to remove or not to remove the bugman comes from a much higher source than them.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 03:22 PM
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29. You're right, of course
Repub trees don't simply fall. Logger Rove comes in and chops them down. Lott fell only because Rove allowed him to.

It's sad but true.

Still, we need to link Delay and * at every opportunity. We need for people to think of one when they think of the other.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:39 PM
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13. Arnheim, great post.
Thanks!

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:52 PM
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14. I was just trying to flush you out of hiding! LOL!
Delay really, really still makes me so angry. :grr:
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Filius Nullius Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 02:25 PM
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15. Tom DeLay's attempted intimidation of the courts
I am no historian, but I feel certain that one of the first things Adolph Hitler and his SS and Gestapo henchmen, Goring, Himmler and Heydrich, did after coming to power was to intimidate and/or imprison members of the judiciary and public prosecutors who did not see things their way (this is the real meaning of Shakespeare's "The first thing we must do is kill the lawyers"). Only after this had been accomplished could the courts become a reliable means of implementing the Fuhrer's will.

The threatening words directed by Tom DeLay against the federal and state judiciaries when the courts refused to knuckle under and assist his political aims during the Terry Schiavo fiasco were frighteningly reminiscent of those dark days. He is, indeed, a scary man.

One of the reasons I frequent the DU and a few of the Democratic and liberal blogs is the anonymity it affords me. I feel a great deal of anxiety these days when I even think about putting my actual name on some of the things I feel compelled to say about these guys. I shudder to think what will happen if those in charge of our fascist plutocracy or the Homeland Security people ever get their hands on the hard drives that contain our messages. Hopefully, there is no way to trace the authorship of a particular message, or, if the need were to arise, the identities could be quickly and irrecoverably nuked (I have this image of an unsteady hand reaching up over the edge of a keyboard and hitting the "Enter" key just as the storm troopers and detectives break into the room).

Yours in pervasive, omnipresent paranoia,

Filius Nullius

P.S.: I'm sure you can tell that I am hyperbolizing and playing with you (but only a little).
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:02 PM
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16. I used to feel the same way but finally had to say "screw it"
I've warned Mr. Arnheim that I'll be one of the first to be rounded up. I've instructed him to denounce me and take the kids into hiding.

Just joking (but only slightly)
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Filius Nullius Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:45 PM
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17. "Round up the usual suspects!"
Yeah, I can tell by the number of your posts, you would definitely be one of the usual suspects.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 04:22 PM
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19. I'm the queen of emails, phone calls, etc.
I have the toll free number for Congress programmed on my cell phone. Seriously.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:02 PM
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28. It's a several step process.
DeLay helps intimidate the Legislative branch. Money and threats to them.

Now, he and a few other designated thugs are going after the Judiciary, just in case Bush doesn't get every god damned last appointment he wants. The instant he wants it.

They've already got the media.

The judiciary (and the people) are all that's left.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 03:51 PM
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18. How could we forget, thanks to dzika's posting of his venomous hissing.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 03:53 PM by Ojai Person
That man is scary.

Edit to add, if it's any consolation, the solar eclipse tomorrow falls right on DeLay's Sun--his birthday is also tomorrow. Solar eclipses are often harbingers of the downfall of a political leader, usually within 6 months.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:27 AM
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21. Very Cool omen! Thanks Ojai Person! n/t
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:36 AM
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24. That will be real consolation--once it happens!
...if it's any consolation,
the solar eclipse tomorrow falls right on DeLay's Sun--his birthday is also tomorrow. Solar eclipses are often harbingers of the downfall of a political leader, usually within 6 months.


December 8th--should be gone by then... hopefully much sooner!

That will be real consolation--once it happens! Thank you!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:04 AM
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23. Oh Hammer, before you go,
have you fixed that parking ticket for me yet?
If not, WTF am I paying you for?
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