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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:01 PM
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Reminder. Olbermann on now.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:02 PM
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1. Thanks! Almost forgot
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Help expose the election 2004 voter fraud!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:05 PM
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2. Can you please do a bit of updating? We cancelled cable last month
thanks! :D
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:11 PM
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6. Nothing on BBV just now. Talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 08:12 PM by GreenPartyVoter
such as no plane hitting the Pentagon and a smaller building in NYC that went down supposedly due to explosives, suggesting someone knew that something big was going to happen and took advantage of it perhaps?

But journalist Gerald Posner smacked them down.

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http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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19. a few comments
Youngstown Ohio had a vote count of negative 25,000,000.

In NC vote machines couldn't count more than 3000 votes. So anywhere from 4,500-12,000 votes may not have been counted. Also in some county votes were somehow counted twice.

Nebraska had 10,000 extra votes.

If Kerry conceded later and still didn't win there may have been some backlash if he decides to run in 2008.

Not much new information. Just hope this doesn't fade away before there is proof.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:07 PM
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3. Yes, thanks! eom
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:09 PM
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4. I really hope he keeps hammering this every night and then maybe
the rest of the main stream media will start reporting on it. I guess that's all we can hope for.
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Ms.Victory Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:10 PM
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5. Watching.
Thanks.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:33 PM
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10. nadar asked -where is the DEM party
to insure that all votes are counted. Then he said Nadar really did not say anyting.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:46 PM
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15. Jonathan Turley---Ohio ripe with allegations


---Jonathan Turley---Ohio ripe with allegations (did Kerry concede too early)/

Is it likely--NO. Is it possible--Yes. Concession was narrow.

Without the candidate--judges not work to hard to support contestations:-(

I gotta wonder "what if" if Kerry would have Turley for his advisor the night of the election??
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neener3 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:13 PM
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7. Obama/Obermann in '08
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:23 PM
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8. David Schuster
David Schuster also has a report on the possibility of fraud on MSNBC Website. He is sort of poo pooing fraud in Florida and is putting it on the Dixiecrat thing, but he did say there are more questions than answers in Ohio.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:31 PM
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9. Deafening silence in media.. that's what he just said..
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:36 PM
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12. "Wimps" in the media" per KO--
I like Craig Crawford
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:35 PM
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11. Keith Olbermann is My New Hero.....
God Bless Keith Olbermann
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:39 PM
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13. Craig Crawford
Where is the DNC?
filling out nationalizational forms to Canada (te he).
--not make a fuss--worry it would like rediculous.
Actually it makes sence to me. A lot is at stake for Kerry had he contested the election last Wednesday. It IS the lasy media's responsiblity to uncover stories!!
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Miami Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:40 PM
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14. I love this man
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:50 PM
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16. The Constitutional Law Expert On Olbermann said
that if the current president takes the pledge in January, then even if they found the vote was for Kerry after he was in , they would not be able to remove him UNLESS they found out that he knew about the fraud
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:54 PM
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17. I hope
God I hope Olbermann continues with the voter fraud stories, or "irregularities". Turley, the guest from George Washington University, said that there is definitely room for challenge, but without the challenger (kerry), the judges may not work as hard. KERRY, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU!!!?????

I love Olbermann. I hope he continues this in the coming days..
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:56 PM
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18. Buzzflash story today about MSNBC Olbermann segment
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/11/con04492.html
November 9, 2004 SEND THIS PAGE TO A FRIEND
CONTRIBUTOR ARCHIVES

Incredible As It May Seem, MSNBC Covers Voting Problems

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION

Just watched Keith Olbermann on MSNBC in which he did a story on election problems. He said that there were 90,000 more votes cast in Ohio than registered voters (he went through a list of counties and said how many voters were registered in each and how many extra thousands of votes were recorded).

He reported how in Florida counties, heavily-leaning dem counties went overwhelmingly for Bush -- the first time these counties have ever voted Repub. He showed charts with numbers, etc., it was very compelling.

He said that all the irregularities in Florida and Ohio have happened in counties using non-paper-trail e-voting from the companies run by Bush's friends.

He interviewed a reporter from the Cincinnati paper who discussed how homeland security barred reporters from witnessing the voting in some of the major minority areas in town, that this was the first time the press was ever kept out of and barred from witnessing the voting. The Sec of State in Ohio says that it was under orders from Bush's Homeland Security chief, who said that these cities in Ohio were under a highly increased threat of terrorism during the election. For this reason, only one entrance was open for the voting in these (largely democratic) areas, and the press was barred from coming in to see the voting, or to have the usual offices in the building they have had in every past year.

Olbermann then had Rep. John Conyers on and there are a dozen or so representatives demanding an investigation from the GAO. So it's Chicago-style voting taken to a national level -- the GOP dead vote, the GOP takes away votes from Dems and turned them into Bush votes, and they just add extra votes (for pres, not on the other issues or candidates) to the totals.

In Florida where Bush scored big, on the same ballots Democratic measures scored big, such as making a Florida minimum wage $1 above the federal level. In other words, all these people voted for Bush AND voted to pass these Democratic measures, which the GOP had tried to defeat. So this indicates that only the presidential election voting was rigged, they didn't rig the rest of the voting form.

Looks like maybe we're going to get some sort of investigation into the fraud that's gone down after all, even if Kerry caved in.

Also, some counties in Ohio where the press has always been allowed to inspect figures from voting -- have been taken away and they're not allowed to view them. They're filing something in court to force the Sec of State to release them for public review.

Also, one heavily-Dem county in Florida discovered a huge stack of absentee ballots that had not been counted and told the Sec of State's office about the ballots and said they would count them -- and the Sec of State told them to hold on, and then came and took the ballots away, so the officials in that county were never able to count them.

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION


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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:04 PM
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20. Oh.
That's from last night. Cool. I'll pass this on. Thanks pbartch.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:04 PM
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21. Repeat after me. There is NO Mandate.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM by The Flaming Red Head
Not enough war-profiteering capital to continue invading one country after the next. I hope they fight this election tooth and nail.
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM
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22. I hope so too.
THERE IS NO MANDATE!!!
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:10 PM
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23. Interesting comment....
....when he was talking to that Rocco guy (or whatever his name is).

Olbermann asked something along the lines of where the accusations of democrats trying to rig the election were. I thought that was slightly interesting.

Speaking of which, where's the evidence Bev Harris has? Obviously, the media isn't locked down as she suggested, but it sure would be nice to see the proof they're asking for. Surely she has one person out of all these precincts all ovedr America that was witness to fraud and could shed light on how it happened.
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