ABC news - Jennings: "Just who are those people out there..."

[Chili]

...who don't believe that President Bush won the election?"

So I guess they're going to do a piece on it on the nightly news. From the patronizing tone of his voice, I'm assuming - I hope prematurely - that's it's going to be condescending and dismissive.

Stay tuned... I guess.

[aquart]

1. You watch. I can't.

[Chili]

5. I can't either...

...I have to go pick up my Market Day food, like, 5 mins ago...

[Donailin]

44. Conspiracy theorists?

Was I a conspiracy theorist when my intuition told me that there were no WMD's in Iraq and that there was no threat from Sadam Hussien back in 2002?

Peter Jennings just efficiently put the theory to rest. I guess it wasn't worth mentioning that all other counties that had paper trails made no such switch to Bush. In fact, he never even mentioned paper trails or the fact that the voting system is privatized.

[ixion]

2. who are we? patriotic Americans, that's who

damn media whores. :grr:

[tmooses]

3. Yes, can we expect anything but a"tinfoil" piece from him?

[Jawja]

4. This is a GOOD thing.

Yeah, they will dismiss it as "conspiracy nuts."

But it's OUT there. The idea is out there that just maybe God W. Bush stole THIS election, too?

This is a GOOD thing.

[Jack_Dawson]

6. Agree

It means the groundswell is growing. Keep emailing and calling!

:toast:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. exactly....putting it in the news cycle beats the hell out of nothing

just ask the Swifties

[roseBudd]

21. Bush used a corked bat!

[Chimpanzee]

72. Bush has a corked head!!

[Eloriel]

36. Perhaps. It's certainly true that more and more Americans have

a little CT streak running through them.

And many more to come, I'm sure.

[cornermouse]

7. I won't be listening. I stopped about 4-5 years ago.

[LisaL]

8. At least they will know that there are people out there who

don't think Bush won the election.

[neuvocat]

9. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you.

Then they fight you. Then you win.

-Gahndi

[Jack_Dawson]

18. Ah-HA!!!

First nobody covers you. Then Keith covers you. Then Peter covers you. Then Drudge covers you. Then Hannity devotes shows to you...




Then you win.

[bloom]

98. that is very appropriate - someone should mail that to Jennings...

:)

[eleonora]

10. he may have his serious look on

let's not judge it before we see it. At what time is his show again?

[rodeodance]

28. coming up right now after the commercial--stay alert and listen

[eleonora]

37. thanks, going to check it out

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. "Just what are those exit polls out there..."

just keep asking questions. never hurts. NEVER.

[Cobalt Violet]

13. Who are we? The ones with triple digit IQ's.

[Jack_Dawson]

19. LMAO!

:toast:

[cubsfan forever]

41. LOL! Good one! n/t

Professor 2

[Pallas180]

83. Exactly right...apparently a minority in Amurika.

.

[rodeodance]

14. I heard that opening statement!! --and "so many conspiricies" but am

waiting to see what he says. Hope others are also. THEN we can email the show!!

[Jersey Devil]

15. Why would Nixon be involved in a 3rd rate burglary? Nah!

That's how it started.

[glitch]

16. Uh oh, looks like the powers that be consider this a big enough threat to

require a vaccine.
Enter the disdainful professional newsreaders, pooh-poohing us silly citizens who still think we live in a democracy.

[Eloriel]

43. Exactly. That's exactly my fear.

It'll be pro-White House spin. (Hope I'm wrong.)

[hippiegranny]

17. they are

grandmothers, tax payers, gay people, democrats, etc.

they are me.

[chiffon]

20. "All those conspiracy theorists"

Give me a friggin' break Jennings-boy. He is from Canada and unless he became an Amerikan citizen, I wonder if he can even vote.

Better get that bass out of your condescending tone.

[Demit]

22. I think he finally got American citizenship just recently...

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. He did

and unlike you or me (naturalized) he does not take it seriously enough to fight for it

Cushy job and money I guess.

[rodeodance]

32. he asked the question "shall we call them conspiracy theories"?

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. But of cousre, you expect him to actually ask the

hard questions?

How silly of you...

SILLY, SILLY, SILLY

;-)

[pretzel4gore]

88. while betraying america, he became a citizen

goddamit it loathe that pos

[CANDO]

27. He became a US citizen after Sep 11th, I believe.

Seen him say so in an interview not too long ago.

[Petrodollar Warfare]

23. Answer - Those who know what the 3rd and final exit polls showed!.

...afterall, it was Jennings from ABC on Friday night who claimed that networks typically do not "call" the election until the 3rd exit polls are done (4pm), but Jennings completely failed to mention that in both the 3rd(4pm) and final (6pm) exit polls showed Kerry winning both Ohio and Florida (51 vs 49). Does he think we are stupid?...actually don't answer that question.

My question to him, why didn't they call Ohio and Florida for Kerry, afterall, that's what the network used to do! - atleast according to his own admission that was done in the pre-Diebold/pre-ES&S days...now it's whatever the unauditable/paperless machine says?

His Friday diatribe blaming "internet blogs" for somehow being responsible for any confusion of the exit polling facts suggests he lives in the faith-based community, whereas most non-media folks who can still think critically are in the apparantly unpopular "reality-based" community. I knew I should not have watched TV on Friday...I can't deal anymore with the Orwellian network media spin.

Pathetic Jerk.

[NCvoter]

39. yeah, they clearly debunked that exit poll theory

<rolling eyes>

[Sparkly]

84. Could you steer me to the data for those later exit polls

and is there a transcript of what Jennings said Friday?

That ought to get around all the blogs, if it hasn't already. Good catch.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

24. Don't bother........

.........next to FAUX, ABC is as far into the GOP's pockets as anyone.

[Cush]

25. up next

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

30. And coming up later........

.........."Britney Spears retires! Is it for real?"

Might as well, Peter, you've got nothing really important to report.....

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Lacy Petrson I need my Peterson FIX today

as well as Kobe, what is Kobe, oh yes moving to civil suit in Cali

Yeepee enough to keep the proles distracted while we come up with the next case

[txindy]

26. "We're the people doing your job, Peter."

Not that he really cares.

[BlackVelvet04]

50. Exactly

Exactly....the press hasn't been doing their job for a long time.

[Free2BMe]

31. Listening - as we "speak."

[Free2BMe]

42. History...it will take history to prove ...that the dynasty existed in the

meantime GWB should be arrested and tried for International War Crimes...Short trial.

[Jack_Dawson]

33. How was the piece?

Condescending?

Did he go over the 30%-70% FL inversions Keith did?

Signed,

West Coast

[Stephanie]

45. Jennings is a smirky patronizing prick

And what happened to Jake Tapper???

They picked one Fl county - said that even though it's 3500 Dems to 800 repubs, the county went big for repubs each of the last four elections.

They talked to one guy from some voting group, didn't catch who, who said there were very few problems with voting this time.

And those exit polls? Well, they were just wrong. Voting expert says when you have a choice between the exit poll and a vote tally, you take the vote tally.

Begone, Conspiracy Theorists!

[Chimpanzee]

80. That's strange - I was under the distinct impression that

florida had several counties - at least 3-4, Dade, Broward..., etc.

[PatsFan2004]

47. Jennings shot us down with the "facts".

They pointed to one FLA country with more a lot more DEMs than Repukes and pointed out that going back to Quayle, that county has always gone RED. A black DEM congressman said that the other side did a better job with the turnout.

They also pointed out that the Ohio surplus of votes in Cuyahoga was non-existent.

This piece makes the vote fraud proponents look really bad.

[Stephanie]

52. The "conspirators" - ???

Yeah, Bush/Cheney/Rove do look really bad.

Now off with you, back to the bridge!

[PatsFan2004]

58. Bad choice of words on my part. Too much tv news.

I should have written "look like conspiracy nuts".

[Stephanie]

70. Do me a favor - don't speak for "us"

You sure don't speak for me.

[rodeodance]

49. segment dubbed as a PUBLIC service to talk about the "theories"

rather bland. Talked of LaFayette County in FL.
where bush won (the contraversy is that there are more registered Dems than Repugs). Noted that their web site does not point out that for the last 2 election cycles (this makes 3), this county also went to a Republican.

This information does dilute any idea that there was a problem in this county.

I should note that also-----This was pointed out on the DU forum a few days ago also.

[wildflower]

63. Ugh, I won't be watching. But on the bright side, this is better than...

those "Majority of Voters Happy Election Went So Smoothly" stories.

-wildlfower

[henslee]

53. One part showed clip of Nadler, implying he might be relying on misleading

internet sources. They showed Dem reg. for Layfayette county vs. actual votes. Debunked claims of irr. by showing stats for 2000 and 1996 elections. Said nothing about Palm Beach, Spoilage, Broward, Absentees, optical scan scenario. Fluffy and yes condescending.... Nevertheless, it did put the story out there.

[mzmolly]

57. My guess is they cherry picked the counties to consider for the piece?

Olbermann discussed this on his blog. He said only Opti-Scan counties all around FL had these discrepancys.

[henslee]

79. Indulge me, if you can. So as of today, the FLA fraud

accusations that relate specifically to the physical process of counting the votes (as opposed to spoilage and absentee fiascos) that are the most worthwhile for us to investigate are those where votes have been tabulated by optical scanners, right? And as of now, the possible act of fraud most probably involves the central tabulators which are supposedly hackable from a remote location? Am I correct?

[mzmolly]

81. To my understanding, that is correct.

The OptiScan counties (totals) are suspect.

[Dufaeth]

34. Ew, on now, what a fuck!

eom

[high density]

40. I've never liked Peter Jennings or ABC News

and this certainly makes me hate him even more.

[AmyCrat]

46. I actually like Peter Jennings...

and preferred to watch him on Election Night vs. other networks...

BUT I didn't like his report tonight at all. Maybe we should get "Shame on You" (CBS) to sick on Peter LOL

[rodeodance]

61. Jennings email address here--lets all email the show your thoughts

ABC News, World News Tonight with Peter Jennings, http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/WorldNewsTonight...

[MelissaB]

85. I clicked the link

to give Peter some feedback, :spank: but the link didn't take me to his mailbox.

(The spanking was for Peter)

[jjanpundt]

51. I watch ABC news for local news and CBS for

the world news. I have always liked Dan Rather. He's not saying anything yet, but if there's some solid evidence I expect he'll get on it quickly. After being burned with shrub's ANG papers I imagine he's being cautious about tackling anything too controversial.

[txindy]

56. Great report, Pete, thanks.

Now, can we get some reruns of all those newscasts where you were so earnestly certain about the great cache of WMD in Iraq before we invaded? You know, all of those weapons that could be used to terrorize us here in this country. Can we watch those, again? Just for giggles, Pete, that's all. Thanks.

:eyes:

[kittenpants]

48. it seems those counties in FL that are mostly Democratic

always vote Republican... or have been cheated in the last 4 presidential elections.

and apparently there aren't actually more votes in Cuyahoga than voters.

as for exit polls, they believe the votes over the poll

(all of this is from the news and may not necessarily reflect the feeling or views of kittenpants)

[demgrrrll]

71. I watch body language quite a bit. When Jennings did his little

interview with Rather and Brokaw he drummed his hand furiously on the arm rest when Brokaw stopped espousing the party line for a few minutes. He was tense, he wanted Rather to shut up and he is in the tank.

[shelley806]

75. The so called Dixiecrats, which Keith pointed out last night, but on

his blog today, he said that the counties that he mentioned last night were just the most glaring examples of very Democratic counties voting Republican...there were MANY more that he didn't mention, scattered throughout the state (that is, outside of Dixiecratland), and they also used the op scan cheating machines.

[kikiek]

54. The American Enterpise Institute isn't non partisan. Frum and Gingrich

are advisors there. Even if there isn't anything to it ABC and Jennings showed who they are. http://www.aei.org/ They are one of the reasons our country is taking a hard right.

[rodeodance]

66. very right wing

[Chili]

55. okay, I shouldn't have looked...

...but I did, and I'm really late.

What a waste of time that was. It was surface fluff, and seemed a little too eager to make light of the "phantom voters in Ohio."

A little disappointed in Jake Tapper, too, who, if I remember correctly, appeared in that documentary about the 2000 election.

It's astounding that the administration who used fraudulent documents as an excuse to start a war can be completely trusted with the election that keeps them in power.

*out the door*

[Stephanie]

62. Jake Tapper used to write for Salon

So I'm kind of shocked at how superficial and dismissive his report was.

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. his bosses told him to, or he is fired

or worst...

[The Flaming Red Head]

78. More tax cuts for the upper class, baby (oops no voter fraud here)

Are there any poor or middle class people in national media?

Fuck em.

[demgrrrll]

86. He was one of the spite boys who reported on Gore. Rarely gave him

a break in 2000. Got all pissy because he was late and the plane left him on the tarmac. I remember one of his articles during the 2000 debacle featured a drawing of a fork stuck in the side of a big ham.
Stick a fork in Gore... he's done. He is a shill.

[rodeodance]

76. it was a bland story--but yes rather dismissive as you say

[Art_from_Ark]

59. Peter F*ing Jennings

three years ago lamented that there "weren't enough conservatives in broadcasting".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/01/top10_2001_10.html

Jennings is a sorry excuse for a journalist

[Imnorepublican]

60. BUMP

BUMP

[MPM]

64. Coverage on Fox News

The vote fraud issue has just been discussed by the 'Fox Allstars' on Special Report with Brit Hume.

Juan Williams was given a good opportunity to list some of the key concerns which people had e-mailed him about concerning the problems with the election. Naturally Charles Krauthammer rubbished the whole theory but Brit Hume was remarkably restrained.

I thought the coverage was actually pretty fair and balanced - a first for Fox!

[neener3]

68. Thanks for a FReeper update.

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. ok, ok assuming they were fair or balnced,

this is Fox after all, this story is starting to get out there

Didn't watergate start this way?

Oooops sorry, we do not have an independnet news media or for that matter an honest house or senate.

Oh sorry for raising some hopes here

[rodeodance]

74. yes, the story is getting out and am glad

to hear that Brit was "constrained".
Charles K. is a bullfrog--I have to hear anything constructive some from his mouth--besides bladder of "liberal" crap. Sometimes i do not know who is worse--Charles K. or Rush!!

[Sparkle]

82. That Krauthammer guy is creepy.

Ick!

[CraZdem4life]

95. liberty media

well, Liberty Media (the owner of discovery channel and game show network) is/was thinking about buying news corp (parent company of Fox News Chan) from rupert murdoch...so unless they can somehow raise $ and not a hole for their channel, they have to stop being so rightist.

[Middle Finger Bush]

67. Jennings was calling it for DUMBYA

before the election results were even in

F that damn Canadian (j/k, I do love Canada)

[lynch03]

73. Jennings was calling it for DUMBYA"

the story is slowly leaking out.. It was mentioned by Brit Hume on FOX NEWS to.. They have to explain it sooner or later..

[stepnw1f]

77. Screw Him

Watch the Left arm of Rove in action. Don't get mad when you witness the marginalizing of Voter Fraud.

[annagull]

87. So Ohio changed the website? That's "proof"?

So Ohio REVISED the website to make the numbers reflect the outcome and that's proof? Boy, that's some reportin' them fellas are doing, guess it just proves the point of how numbers can disappear from a computer screen, eh?

[Chili]

89. ABC dismissing the issue...

...is the very reason it's a good idea that Kerry and the campaign keep their distance from it. Once the evidence goes from circumstantial to undeniable, then they can join the chorus. But for now, I think it's a good idea they say nothing.

[robbedvoter]

92. Riiight! Be nice to the media, or they'll poop on ya. Just ask Gore.

[Chili]

93. no, don't be nice to 'em...

...don't tell 'em shit.

[robbedvoter]

90. Some of them were in this line, Peter:

(Ohio voting)

[Helga Scow Stern]

91. Media addresses - I just wrote Howard Stern begging him to stand up...

against those in the media who worship the AntiPres and his KKKabal. I also thanked him for bringing it to our attention that the head of the FCC is Powell's son, appointed the day Bush was sworn in.

I am taking my frustration out by writing the press as often as I can, asking them how they can keep lying to us or keep quiet. It's bound to get through if we keep at it.

Here is a list of media, domestic and foreign:
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=1166

[lawladyprof]

94. Anybody have Jennings's email address?

[Spera]

96. Direct your e-mail to

[e-mail] with "WORLD NEWS TONIGHT" in the subject line, as per ABC News' contact information page. I didn't see any addresses for direct feedback to Jennings.

[AgadorSparticus]

97. i've said it on another post. i'll say it again. this is good news.

something MUST be coming down the pipes for them to start spinning. they don't spin unless they feel there is a perceived reason to. we must be doing something right....still, keeping my fingers crossed for the fight promised me.