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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:55 PM
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BRAD BLOG: CLINT CURTIS INVESTIGATOR'S 'SUICIDE' CASE REOPENED BY POLICE!

CLINT CURTIS INVESTIGATOR'S 'SUICIDE' CASE REOPENED BY GEORGIA POLICE!
Raymond Lemme Crime Scene Photos Said Not to Exist are Published on Net!

Photos, Evidence and FDOT Involvement with Valdosta, GA Police Raise New Questions in Mysterious Death!

The case of the mysterious suicide of Raymond Lemme of the Florida Inspector General's office was reopened by Valdosta, Georgia police last December shortly after we broke the story of computer programmer Clint Curtis' sworn affidavit charging that he had built a "vote-rigging software prototype" at the request of Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL)!

Furthermore, graphic and disturbing photos from the crime scene -- said in the original police report to have not existed due to a failure in the camera's "flash memory cards" -- have recently been published on the web!

Curtis claims that in mid-June of 2003 Lemme told him he "had tracked the corruption 'all the way to the top' and that the story would break in the next few weeks and I would be satisfied with the results."

On July 1, 2003 -- just two weeks later -- Raymond Camillo Lemme was found dead in a bathtub, with his arm slashed twice with a razor blade near the left elbow in Room #132 of the Knights Inn motel in Valdosta, Georgia; a border-town some 80 miles from Tallahassee, Florida where Lemme lived and worked.

FULL STORY, CRIME SCENE PHOTOS AND DISTURBING NEW EVIDENCE AT:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001243.htm


For those just joining in on this story, a quick summary of the Clint Curtis/Tom Feeney/Yang Enterprises Vote-Rigging Scandal, is now available at:
http://www.BradBlog.com/ClintCurtisSummary.htm

An index of all the key articles and evidence reported in this investigative series so far is at:
http://www.BradBlog.com/ClintCurtis.htm

---
Brad Friedman
THE BRAD BLOG - The uprising continues...
http://www.BradBlog.com

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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:57 PM
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1. AMEN!
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:59 PM
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2. Good God.....
This stuff is creeping me out.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:00 PM
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3. also....
Listen to Brad and Clint Curtis on today’s BlogCall:

At 6:00 Eastern time on Radio Left
http://radioleft.com/

The call will be archived by Ben Burch at the White Rose Society.
http://www.whiterosesociety.org/Blogcall.html

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:04 PM
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4. Was Lemme right handed or left handed?
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:28 PM
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22. Don't know, Backlash...
...Why do you ask?

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:41 PM
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25. Slashs on his left forearm means he had to be right-handed.
If he was left-handed, then it's unlikely he inflicted them himself.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 02:01 PM
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47. Um.. its unlikly he hurt himself at all.. thats the point here!!
I dont for a second think that the people at the center of this administration and there associates would mind killing 1 more person. I met Clint Curtis (at DC rally on the 1/6/'05), and I believed him, the look in his eyes was a little scared, but he knows hes doing the right thing. If this case can shed some light on what Mr. Curtis is saying(and what we are saying... the election was a total fraud and RIGGED).
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 05:21 PM
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62. Yes, I know. I think a prima facie case could be made he was
murdered if he was definitely left handed. Otherwise, we just keep searching for more clues. We're convinced, but now we have to convince others.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:07 PM
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5. Brad is like my dog.
He gets hold of a pant cuff and won't let go.

Brad is like my dog.

I like my dog.

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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 04:56 PM
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17. Is that an aussi shepherd Wilms? n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:08 PM
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18. That IS Wilms!
Yep. And he's an Aussie, but I think something else as well.

And like Brad, he's smart, he's got a really good nose, and you can't rely on him to take no for an answer.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:08 PM
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26. He's a beauty! My beloved Murphy (also an Aussi) has a nose
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 08:09 PM by Iceburg
that's defies all laws of science ... I can take her on any new trail for any length of time,distance, and pattern and all I have to say is "find the truck" and she will track back (usually a much shorter route) and always along a "walkable route" for us mere humans and presto -- there's the truck! I never 2nd guess her ... she has proven time and time again that she is much better at orienteering than I am -- she's a great skijoring dog too -- she's "the best".
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:42 PM
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52. I have an aussie shepherd too, named Quagmire!
Well, my boyfriend does, but since we all moved in together I am his new mommy. He is such an awesome dog!!!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:51 AM
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58. This thread is going to the dogs. n/t
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 03:52 AM by Wilms
:)
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:08 PM
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6. I have not forgotten Paul Wellstone.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:09 PM
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27. Nor Mel Carnahan...
...who could well have been unbeatable as a Presidential candidate.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:34 AM
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34. AND BEFORE THEM JERRY LITTON!! MO. N/T
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 02:12 PM
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49. and the inspector on the franklin cover-up.. more plane crashes, hmm!
Its a growing list of people that were most likely murdered due to there opposition to the fascists and neo-cons that are now squaters in our White House. ...

not heard of the Franklin cover-up.. watch it here and gasp!

http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm

see video down the page, its a documentary that was banned and destroyed, or so they thought..

and theres more... Im sure

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:16 PM
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7. Funny thing ......
..... he left on 9/30/03 AM but the hotel check in receipt is for 9/29/03 @
6:00 PM ........

Boy I hope the writer in florida who has been covering this is O.K. .......
I have not heard from him/her in 2 months ..........

* and company are crooks. We must never stop fighting them.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:22 PM
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8. Good Grief
There's no end to rethug crimes. Hoping this blows up in their faces and blows up big.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:32 PM
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9. TRANSCRIPT (or my best case effort) Posted and KUDOS TO BRAD
First, I want to personally thank Brad, for being the only true journalism we have left in this country. His work on this story has been extensive and quality.

Second, here is what I typed while on the conf. call...
FYI....
Jeff Staples in Radio Left (will Rebroadcast 6pm EST).


BRAD:
Clint Curtis, heard in early December about his story and interviewed him in depth and check out as much as he could about the claims he was making before running with his story. In general , he described in a sworn affidavit, when he was working for a software firm Yang enterprises, Inc. he had a meeting in October of 2000 with CEO of Yang, Ms. Yang, Mike Cohn, Tom Feeney, who was Yang’s corporate counsel and registered lobbyist and speaker of FL House. Running mate to jeb bush in Jeb’s initial run for governor, rather famous, Tom Feeney, is in 2000 election to announce, no matter what US Supreme court announces about election, the FL House would give the electors to George Bush in 2000.

In 2000 meeting Clint Claims to, later in sworn videotape, before members of house judiciary committee… Tom Feeney asked him to write a vote rigging protoype software, very specific, had to be usable on touchscreen computers, no additional equipment, keyboard, that the routines used to flip votes, not be visible if anyone were to examine source code.

Could not be done, could not hide routines if anybody discovered the source code.

PROTOTYPE program to explain how this could be done. Curtis was a lifelong republican and went about this task, under this impression that Feeney was concerned democrats would rig vote with voting software. Feeney wanted to see how to keep an eye on that, Clint went away to his office, wrote the software and delivered it next day, on CD with documentation, very simple program, explained how it would work, touch invisible buttons, or tabulating machines, and what would happen, these buttons in this specific order, no numbers would be changed if candidate leading, if candidate not winning, numbers flipped to be given candidate 51% of vote. Did say unable to hide routines in source code, Wang said “You don’t understand this has to hide the code, and said this is to rig the vote in Florida”. Clint dissatisfied working for Yang. Gave his resignation to the company who asked him to stay on and find a replacement, another 6 weeks at the end of which they threw him a farewell party.

Miss Yang said, “the door will be open to you anytime you want to come back.”

Went to work for DOT Florida, and saw that Yang had a multimillion contract with FDOT, and that an illegal Chinese programmer was inserting wiretapping into things like Nasa, later in ensuing years, Chinese alien Hai Lin Ni (Henry Li), ICE arrested him on 3 counts of shipping missile chips to people’s republic of china, March 2004, in summer of 2004 plead guilty to one of those charges, in plea agreement, NI admits it had been a slow year so they have only done it 10 to 20 times in last year. In October 2004 the sentencing of Ni was a 3 years probation and a $100 fine. FL department of transportation has confirmed that Curtis was correct, Ni was an illegal alien. Yang did overbill FDOT and owes to the tune of some $300K dollars. One claim after another has been verified, been telling truth about them, while vote rigging charges denied… Mike Cohen, claimed to be in that meeting.

85% of the things Curtis claimed happened, verified by Brad Friedman.

Original Inspector from IT’s office, Raymond Lemming, Curtis when to him and gave all data in 2001, after which few months (other whistle blower) were summarily fired on same day. Filing whistleblower cases which they won, nonetheless, in June 2003, Ray Lemmy came to Clint and explained to Clint the report will be ready in a few weeks, tracked the corruption all the way to the top, should keep his ears open in next weeks July 1st 2003, Raymond Lemmy was found dead in a Valdosta GA motel room 80 miles from where he worked. Ruled Suicide. Some troubling things about that case. Police report says no pictures taken of crime scene, no pictures of scene, failure in camera’s flash memory cards.

Guess what we have???? We will be publishing today on Bradblog (provided on Internet) came from Valdosta Police / most notably, complete story, the Valdosta police actually reopened this case, in December of 2004, and closed it shortly thereafter in Jan of 2005, talking to someone in florida DOT. Unable to get info. about what they spoke about but in an interesting of conversations with them, will post at Bradblog.com you’ll see that they had some interesting things to say to me…. Claimed not to be stonewalling me.

Would get back to him with Brad about troubling questions in police report. Called them and paged them everyday..

I think I’ve covered meat and potatoes of issue.

Answered questions, etc. Try to jump in where details not familiar with. Following this paper trail. Extensive paper trail over the last 3 years of all kinds of papers and things that confirm various elements of Curtis’ story.

That sounds great.

Move into Q&A.

BLOGCALL 3 / John Burn, Larissa of rawstory.com, Tom Delay trips overseas, NCPTR, funded his trips, Jack Abramhof connects the 2, press conference, specific questions.

James Moore / Bush’s Brain, contacted them but haven’t dealt with it to date… talked to Newsweek, NY Times, some TV stations. Let me add that in fact, they contacted me and Clint in some large media organizations, at length to Clint at Length, coverage here and there.

My guess is when anybody asks to see this program or copy of software…. Millenial copyright ACT. Does anyone have a copy of that

Reconstructed, and posted it on a website…. The actual software, was written at Yang itself, top secret security clearance, original software not allowed to leave the

website for Clint Curtis....
www.justaflyonthewall.com
look thru how it’s built, how it works.

Uncaptured questioner:
Used in 2000 election in Florida…. if he could gain an advantage he would use an advantage… time October and November 2000, for that to be installed>

Clint:
24 lines of code and flip vote with it… controlling vote by keeping minorities away from poll.

FEENEY aware of the felon purge scheme. Bragging about it, part of his thing…..keep minorities away from polls… police

Reduce black vote by 25% by putting police patrols. Exclusion list.

People listening

Affidavit, list of all the key articles reported www.bradblog.com/clintcurtis.htm link to original affidavit, various key articles.

How media dealt with Lemmy, link to obit other than that… 0 coverage of Raymond Lemmy’s death. Family. Vocal in that. Spoken to family members, none of them wish to speak on the records.

Where is the report that Lemmy began in 2001 was just released, finally in feb. 2005, and as I said, it confirms many of claims, etc. report itself is 100 pages. In process of going thru the report. We don’t know if that is the report he was working …

Empty file folder and empty yellow notepad.. whatever working on in hotel.

Gary Beck with solarbus (anything in photos that would reveal any new information). Clint always willing to take a polygraph. One notable discrepancy with PHOTO to police report.. existence of photos at all is in conflict, some things don’t make sense Det. Shannon Floyd, says for example at one point in report, there was a belt next to the tub, as a tourniquet, sat on a white towel, none visible on towel…. There’s blood all over towel….

Check in / check out receipt is dated June 30th 6:44, Raymond was in tallahassee 5:15am, etc. the dates are completely off….

Dorothy, independent filmmaker / technical question vote switching and vote flipping. Votes for Kerry going to Bush, fuss about this.. investigate all over country, Youngstown, 20 machines on which that was happening, whether or not the kind of program created, gets a problem in it…. Sloppy programming, no matter what you do on the screen.

What happens is underneath, could switch vote from Kerry to Bush (would just do it).

Person could not see anything, an election supervisor and 10 witnesses on screen, random spots on screen and submit.

Might these machines have had a problem, so many of them were making the same mistake. I’m thinking the programming was intentional, all you’re doing is adding one to a total, no reason for that to occur.

Jeff staples Radioleft.com

Only the top 2 vote getters that implies if too large a distance between 2 top candidates.
In FL showed exit polls by 9% , do you believe it.

How far apart on election day.

He was 56 at time he died. He had by the way returned from army reserve weekend. Family was in complete shock, no sign that he’d done something like this. His wife confirms in police report working on big case. Refers to his wife, had only one child and he never mentions her in that suicide note. Suicide night not signed. Did the police do it, at family’s request for cremation.

Presume having talked to some of family members, nothing that they were unhappy about. Done at their request until found otherwise..

Not by handwriting experts. But the family members who spoken with, generally believe it was his handwriting…

Do we have access to photographs (will be on website) hard to read because of lighting, and have Xeroxed photocopy and read handwriting, etc. will be posted in this story. Will be posted within minutes after getting off the call.


Have posted summary and index with key articles, learning about those yourself, pointing to those, linking to those, but get the story out there.. write about it on your blog… if you would like to speak with Clint about these things.. contact Brad Friedman, unlike Jeff Gannon, Clint has been willing to talk to anyone. Has not hid behind anything, showed up live in hearing for House Judiciary members, why didn’t Conyers ever publicize this? Hadn’t publicized the Clint Curtis interview. Conyers made an extensive report on the hearings. Did he ever report on testimony by clint Curtis, is in the record of transcript, not made a public statement, understanding is that Tom Feeney, sits on house Judiciary committee, bar for ethics complaints is very high, if they issue an ethics complaint against feeney and unable to meet bar, is decided by majority, they themselves can be held on ethics complaints. Clint has given public testimony and various staffers in senate and house in various occasions, but we need more people digging, to apply pressure on this to speak about this.

To speak on democrat and republican side. Apply the pressure. They can only do so much. If forced to answer publicly. More evidence and details from everyone, certainly once mainstream media, will have to give comment, so far able to Dodge, he did make some statements to MSNBC, quickly disproven, as debunked.

Roger King, Democrats abroad Canada. Who have you approached, and what is reaction. One more nugget to push it into another realm. Sense, in truth most of mainstraim media. Contacted me after I broke the story, there was one, don’t want to mention, mainstream newspaper prior to breaking the story, frankly, uh, this is explosive enough story to give it to mainstream media, within halls of congressional investigation , breaking it on my blog. Have been many of them, cannot tell them why they’ haven’t run with it. Seem to be very interested in it…. Amazed by material, all you can ask yourself, if you look at body of work, thousands of words, hard evidence public documents, court documents, you have to ask yourself, if this was the other way around, with a democrat having done, would that be in mainstream media.

DEMOCRATS Abroad Canada… Kerry campaign, FL democrats, what has democratic reaction, Democrats not jumping on this stuff more feverishly. Not contacted DNC yet. Mostly congressional democrats.

Heleni in boston. Held back with speaking to people in democratic party, felt like there was not enough corroboration, this isn’t a substantive story. If background information was sufficient, to be picked up. Use to backup our complaints, going to people who are not publicizing…..

Searching for 3 months to find a hole in his story. The executive secretary Mike Cohen who was at the meeting, removed from Yang, sent to different job at Nasa, used to be liaison to media… not able to find hole in Clint Curtis story (but found holes in Feeney, Yang and other attorneys, stories). Michael O’Quinn (Fowler & O’Quinn) used to be Fowler , O’Quinn, Feeney (dropped his name from lawfirm), turns out, Tom Feeney’s campaign for 2004 run for congress headquarters are to this day, inside Yang building, Yang threw him a private party and reception. With photographs of him. Documents are there, Feeney/Yang side are wrong. Warned if anything Clint had to say, could be proven incorrect, it seems to be item after item have been debunked, does that mean we have to throw out rest of story.

DENY VOTE RIGGING STUFF ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

It sort of does come down to one guy’s testimony.

Jim Brad with Democrats.com (think to advantage to leave code, you could make it eat itself, and then month later, disintegrates, patch stuff, back there). One other questions, blitzkrieg republican in FL writes voting machine software. ever heard of them?

Since Clint mentioned arrogance of Feeney, Tom Feeney threw fundraiser for Feeney for Congress, called Cest La Vie Comrade Rather, harbored a now confirmed Chinese spy, insists that Ni never worked for them, weekly time reports, 40-60 hours per work, Florida agrees he worked, Chinese spy, Tom Feeney, demonstrates arrogance. Owners brother thrown out of the country for spying.

Talked to him. There was an investigator wanted to know where he lives.. found out some interesting thing, Henry hasn’t been interviewed by anybody other than FBI/CIA and Homeland security.

Florida’s task force, Clint sent a note to these guys, Tom ??? who had confirmed that Yang was under investigation, rawstory.com got in touch with agent, maybe different yang… don’t know status of FBI investigation at this time, and havn’t talked to Henry lately. As far as sending parts out of country, had nothing to do with

He worked with research company with defense department. Hard to say what Henry is really doing. Illegal alient as of 2001, convicted of espionage, and still in this country. Been promised a green card, applied a petition on his behalf to help him get a green card, family friend, working various stories, for free to keep up his computer skills….

25,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

Jeff Staples in Radio Left (will Rebroadcast 6pm EST).

Pretty much everything referred on blog… let him know via email… be patient, get mountains these days…

Questions on www.bradblog.com

Help media folks or bloggers out there…

Get in touch with Clint himself…

Yes, help to find whatever evidence and information you need. Good news willing to talk about anything.

want to thank Ben Birch in White Rose Society, permanently archived. Replayed often. Invited back for blogcall 3, Next Tuesday Featuring John Burn and Larissa of Rawstory, investigating Tom Delay’s overseas visits paid by company doing Social Security Fright letters. Rawstory working with Bloggers and news radio to create a

Democrats.com/contact (need volunteer to transcribe these calls).

Thank outstanding folks Karen Altman, Tom Ball, Jim Bryant, Noah Diamond, Ted Calls, Carolyn
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:38 PM
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11. I volunteer to type the full transcript...
I gotta run some errands today.. but Brad, I'll happily type up the transcript- you asked for volunteer on call, I volunteer.. I recorded the call on my MP3 recorder and will try to do it later tonite... will email to you when I'm done...

sorry about my less than perfect version above.....

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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:50 PM
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13. Thanks, Rigel!
I've forwarded the link to your generous offer over to the Blogcall folks, so hopefully they can get a recording of the call to work from.

If you don't hear from them shortly, however, stop by Blogcall.org and you should be able to contact them directly.

Thanks much!
Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 04:48 PM
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16. Great job and great BLOG
Thanks Brad.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 11:48 AM
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40. Hacking note
it would be very easy to write a small virus that changes the votes then deletes itself and 'corrects' the code 'errors' it caused as though it weren't even there.
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blue4barb Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:32 PM
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10. WOW! This is absolutely great news.
Brad, you're an awesome investigative journalist, I know you worked hard to stay on top of this Curtis story. The Ray Lemme murder is another big clue to the deep deception going on by those in power. Do I dare hope the police will conduct a thorough investigation of Lemme's death? And will MSM cover the story? Olbermann?

Great reporting, Brad!
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:53 PM
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14. Thanks blue4barb...

The questions you've asked, unfortunately, cannot yet be answered. But yes, like me, you may dare hope! :-)

On the Olbermann account however, I highly doubt it. He dealt with this story briefly once and screwed it up to high heaven in an unbelievably irresponsible way.

For more on that, see these pieces in response to his screw ups on this story:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001199.htm
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001071.htm

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:43 PM
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12. Sound familiar?" Rember another guy who went against the BFEE?
"When she peaked inside the bathroom, she saw a man's nude body lying in the blood-filled tub. There was blood not only on the tile floor but spattered up onto the wall above as well....

... A team of paramedics from the local fire department joined them a few minutes later. Squeezing into the tiny bathroom, they found a white male in his early forties with deep cuts on both wrists: three or four wounds on the right and seven or eight on the left, made with a sharp, bladed object....they found a single-edge razor blade -- the kind used to scrape windows or slice open packages -- at the bottom of the bloody water in the bath,...

On the desk in the bedroom the cops found...legal pad from which a single page had been removed. The page lay near a plastic Bic pen, and in its ink there was a note..."

THE LAST DAYS OF DANNY CASOLARO
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=6&q=http://www.american-buddha.com/danny.last.htm&e=9833







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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:55 PM
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20. Don't forget James Hatsfield.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:54 PM
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15. Lack of Autopsy is VERY SUSPICIOUS
I worked with Dr. Joseph Burton, one of Georgia's most respected Medical Examiners (show quincy modeled after) when I was young and my very vague understanding was that any chance of foul play, they had to do an autopsy.. it was mostly the discretion of the investigator (the death investigator), so I'm curious why there was no such investigation or autopsy.. blood splattered on wall is not conducive to a normal suicide... it would be great to get my friend down to Valdosta to do some after the fact investigation and make a determination if the suicide was at least 'questionable'.. will let you know if I can engage his help....

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/gacode/45-16-27.html

I also found Georgia code surrounding autopsies.. I don't know if this is helpful...
45-16-27.

(a) Coroners shall require an inquest to be conducted in their respective counties as follows:
(1) When any person dies under any circumstances specified in paragraphs (1) through (8) of subsection (a) of Code Section 45-16-24; provided, however, that an inquest is not required to be held, although the coroner is authorized to hold an inquest, under the following circumstances:
(A) When upon the completion of the medical examiner´s inquiry the peace officer in charge and the medical examiner are satisfied that, even though death resulted from violence, no foul play was involved. In this event, the peace officer in charge and the medical examiner shall make a written report of their investigation and findings to the division as set forth in Code Section 45-16-32 and upon their recommendation, the coroner shall make and file a proper death certificate;
(B) When there is sufficient evidence to establish the cause and manner of death, even though the medical examiner´s inquiry revealed that death resulted from foul play;
(C) When no demand for an inquest is made within 30 days after the filing of the death certificate. However, if such demand is made by the party or parties affected by the death, the coroner is authorized to hold the inquest;
(D) When upon the completion of the medical examiner´s inquiry the medical examiner and peace officer in charge are sufficiently satisfied that death resulted from natural causes, and that medical examiner or coroner is willing to and does sign and file a proper death certificate, and no demand for an inquest is made within 30 days thereafter;
(D.1) In cases of deaths resulting from an accident involving any civil aircraft, it shall be the responsibility of the peace officer in charge to notify the National Transportation Safety Board or the Federal Aviation Administration of such accident, to proceed to the scene and guard the area in such manner that no bodies, wreckage, cargo, or mail shall be moved or disturbed until authorized by a representative of the National Transportation Safety Board or the Federal Aviation Administration except to the extent necessary to remove persons injured or trapped, to protect the wreckage from further damage, or to protect the public from injury. Where it is necessary to move aircraft wreckage, mail, or cargo, sketches, descriptive notes, and photographs shall be made, if possible, of the original positions and condition of the wreckage and any significant impact marks. The coroner or medical examiner shall assist investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board or the Federal Aviation Administration as authorized by federal law;
(E) When after full and complete investigation no evidence of foul play is found in cases of hidden cause of death which fall under the jurisdiction of the coroner. The coroner shall be authorized to sign the death certificate on the basis of the information given to him in the reports of the peace officer in charge and the medical examiner, provided that, in such hidden causes of death, after a complete investigation, if sufficient medical history is obtained by the coroner, the peace officer in charge, or the medical examiner to disclose the cause of death and if the attending physician will sign the death certificate, such cases shall not come under the jurisdiction of the coroner; provided, further, that, if there are sufficient competent eyewitnesses to an act in the opinion of the peace officer in charge, such cases shall not come under the jurisdiction of the coroner; or
(F) In cases of deaths of personnel in the armed forces of the United States government resulting from airplane disasters involving airplanes of the armed forces, including crashes or explosions, which deaths shall not come under the jurisdiction of the coroner. It shall be the responsibility of the peace officer in charge to notify the proper armed forces of the United States government immediately of such airplane crashes or explosions in order that they may send their trained forces to the scene for investigation. It shall be the duty of the peace officer in charge, when notified of such crashes or explosions, to proceed to the scene and guard the area in such manner that no bodies or parts of said airplanes shall be moved or disturbed until the arrival of proper investigating officers from the armed forces of the United States government;
(2) When an inmate of a state hospital or a state, county, or city penal institution dies unexpectedly without an attending physician or as a result of violence. The chief medical examiner or his or her designee, regional medical examiner, or local medical examiner shall perform all medical examiners´ inquiries. The coroner, in those counties in which such office has not been replaced by a local medical examiner, shall hold an inquest after receiving the written reports as set forth in Code Section 45-16-32;
(3) When ordered by a court in connection with a medical examiner´s inquiry ordered by that court pursuant to subsection (c) of Code Section 45-16-24; or
(4) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this subsection, no person shall be deemed to have died unattended by a physician when the death occurred while the person was a patient of a hospice licensed under Article 9 of Chapter 7 of Title 31.
(b) On and after July 1, 1999, coroners shall be entitled to an investigation fee of $125.00 where no jury is impaneled or a fee of $250.00 where a jury is impaneled and shall be paid upon receipt of a monthly statement to the county treasury. A deputy coroner shall receive the same fee as the coroner for the performance of services in place of the coroner and shall be paid upon receipt of a monthly statement to the county treasury. Such fee shall be paid within ten days after receipt of the coroner´s monthly statement by the county where the investigation or inquest is held except in counties where the coroner receives an annual salary, in which case no fee shall be imposed upon the county by such salaried coroner or deputy coroner.
(c) When a coroner or a medical examiner or a medical examiner from the office of chief medical examiner, as established in Code Section 35-3-153, conducts an investigation into the death of an individual, the coroner, medical examiner, or medical examiner from the office of chief medical examiner shall be authorized to issue subpoenas to compel the production of any books, records, including but not limited to medical records from hospitals, medical clinics, psychiatric hospitals, physicians´ offices, chiropractors´ offices, and any other health care delivery facility, or papers relevant to the cause of death including without limitation AIDS confidential information as defined by Code Section 31-22-9.1. Any books, records, or papers received by the coroner, medical examiner, or medical examiner from the office of chief medical examiner pursuant to the subpoena must be regarded as confidential information and privileged and not subject to disclosure under Article 4 of Chapter 18 of Title 50. The actual costs of copying any books, records, or papers for the purposes of responding to a subpoena under this subsection shall be paid out of county funds to the person or entity required to respond to that subpoena, and the governing authority of the county of which that coroner or county medical examiner is a public officer shall pay those costs within 30 days after a bill therefor is submitted to the county. A medical examiner from the office of chief medical examiner shall pay the costs of copying from state funds within 30 days after a bill therefor is submitted to the state.
(d) Autopsy photographs shall not be subject to disclosure pursuant to Article 4 of Chapter 18 of Title 50; provided, however, that this subsection shall have no application to the disclosure of such photographs to law enforcement agencies and prosecutors for law enforcement purposes or, in closed criminal investigations, to medical schools, medical facilities, and physicians for medical purposes; to individuals who have secured a written release from the deceased´s next of kin; or to the next of kin. It shall be the responsibility of the next of kin to show proof of the familial relationship. For purposes of securing a written release or when access to the photographs is requested by the next of kin, the deceased´s next of kin shall be:
(1) The spouse of the deceased if living;
(2) If there is no living spouse of the deceased, an adult child of the deceased;
(3) If there is no living spouse or adult child, a parent of the deceased;
(4) If there is no living spouse, adult child, or parent, a sibling of the deceased;
(5) If there is no living spouse, adult child, parent, or sibling of the deceased, a grandparent of the deceased;
(6) If none of the above are living, an uncle of the deceased;
(7) If none of the above are living, an aunt of the deceased; or
(8) If none of the above are living, a first cousin of the deceased.
A superior court may, in closed criminal investigations, order the disclosure of such photographs upon findings in writing that disclosure is in the public interest and that it outweighs any privacy interest that may be asserted by the deceased´s next of kin. In any such action, the court shall review the photographs in question in camera and may condition any disclosure on such measurers as the court may deem necessary to accommodate the interests of the parties before it.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:12 PM
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19. great reporting Brad
as usual - you get great stuff
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:02 PM
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21. HOLY MOLY THAT'S HUGE!
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:31 PM
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23. Thanks for a great press conference Brad. Restarting right now
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 07:33 PM by tommcintyre
http://blog.radioleft.com/

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:34 PM
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24. I just heard it. A lot of times I did not quite hear the questioner's name
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 07:40 PM by rumpel
were there a few reporters? I may have to hear it again later. edited typo

on edit

just saw in above posts the names of the questioners. No MSM, did they at least listen in? do we know?
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:56 PM
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29. Yes, there was MSM there...
...Probably best that I don't "out" them :-)

But they were there.

We'll see where it goes from here. Please keep helping to spread the word! Feel free to write your newspapers and news networks!

If you all do that, I promise to keep digging...

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:50 PM
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44. I sent to Falconcam: involved in N. FL vote w/ Jeff Fisher
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:52 PM
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45. REMEMBER: 580,00 FL votes 'switched'....Kerry would have won....
In the e-voting counties, Kerry got a majority of over 136,000.

If the ratio of the expected votes to the actual votes received by Kerry and Bush in the e touch counties was repeated in the opti scan counties, Kerry would have expected a majority of over 84,000 ---and he would have won FL by over 220,000 votes.

Whereas the recorded figures in the opti scan counties gave Bush a majority of over 504,000 ----giving him a majority of over 368,000 in the state over all.


The figures issue from this site:

http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com/Campaign2006/SurprisingFloridaPresidentialElectionResults.htm

Election Results were taken when the Florida vote was 98.6%



GO FIGURE. Its a lesson in how to move 588,000 votes from one candidate to the other.

OVER HALF A MILLION VOTES HAVE TRADED PLACES FROM ONE CANDIDATE TO THE OTHER.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:00 PM
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28. here's shannon flloyd
http://www.valdostatech.edu/news/index.asp

about halfway down the page.
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:13 PM
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30. PLEASE! Keep Kicked!!!
:)
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:24 PM
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31. Kick
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:43 AM
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32. It was a great conference,
I especially enjoyed it when Curtis said that the software he developed gave no outward signs that the vote was changed. When asked about the machines that registered bush when the voter voted kerry, he said that would be a screen problem as opposed to the software. He said that with the software he developed, everyone could be watching the computer and never see the changes being made or know that changes had been made.

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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:59 AM
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33. This is a BIG story! And here I thought
the whole Curtis and Lemme story was going to sink like a stone. Great work, and thanks for the post, Brad!
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 08:56 AM
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35. Holy Shit Batman!!! or should I say...Bradman!!! N/T
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:01 AM
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36. Kick N/T
:kick:

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:13 AM
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37. Someone alert Greg Palast about this!!
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:23 AM
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38. Hmmm, who is the governor in Florida again?... just kidding...
A Bush connection...? Well then there is no doubt in my mind that foul play is involved!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:23 AM
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39. Broward New Times article from Feb. 9, 2005
http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2005-02-10/news/news.html

In the fall of 2000, Republican power broker Tom Feeney attended a meeting at Yang Enterprises in Oviedo, near Orlando, a former employee of the firm says. Feeney, who would soon become Florida's speaker of the House, wasn't just a politician; he was also a lobbyist. Among his clients was Yang, a small software company owned by a wealthy Chinese-American woman named Li-Woan Yang.
Feeney went to his client with an assignment. According to a former company programmer, Feeney was interested in finding out whether electronic voting machines could be rigged. "Mr. Feeney said that he wanted to know if Yang Enterprises could develop a prototype of a voting program that could alter the vote tabulation in an election and be undetectable," programmer Clint Curtis would later write in a sworn affidavit submitted to U.S. Congress.

The meeting took place about a month before the 2000 election debacle and a year before electronic voting machines were introduced in the Sunshine State. For that reason, the 46-year-old Curtis, a lifelong Republican, didn't think he would be helping to fix an election. Feeney was acting preemptively, Curtis surmised. He simply wanted to know if an election could be rigged.

Curtis created a simple software program intended for electronic voting machines. The program could manipulate true results and ensure that a losing candidate would win 51 percent to 49 percent.
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 11:48 AM
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41. Maybe the camera memory cards were made by...
Diebold!
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jasop Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 11:51 AM
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42. So why isn't this being pushed like the Gannon thing?
I hate how the important stuff is never pushed the way some things are. I agree gannon/guckert was important but so much of the election stuff never gets the same attention. Makes me sad. :(
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 03:00 PM
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51. Don't be sad...Be Loud!
...Just start "pushing", jasop!

If you guys make as much noise about this one, as was made about Gannon/Guckert, the MSM will be *forced* to take notice!

Start writing them! And keep making noise!

Quick Summary of the Curtis/Feeney/Yang Scandal:
http://www.BradBlog.com/ClintCurtisSummary.htm

Key Articles & Evidence in this BRAD BLOG Investigative Series:
http://www.BradBlog.com/ClintCurtis.htm

You can't lose, if you never quit...

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:11 PM
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55. kick
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 11:52 AM
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43. GA police: "The murder suspects told us to close the investigation"
Fucking rediculous!

Georgia police say the equivalent of:

"We re-opened the suicide/murder investigation because people brought to our attention many unanswered questions, new information, recovered murder scene photographs, many suspicious things, and showed us many mistakes in the original investigation. If Mr. Lemme was murdered, it had something to do with people at FDOT. However, the MURDER SUSPECTS at FDOT assured us that THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE, so we promptly closed the investigation.
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V Lee Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 01:03 PM
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46. This is the second mysterious "suicide" ...

It never got much press, but a woman in Texas accused Bush of raping her in 2002, and she was subsequently found dead of an apparent suicide. I've looked at the court documents and it appears that Bush was in contempt of court (and should have had a warrant issued for his arrest) because he didn't show up for his court date. In fact, according to the public court records, it looked like the Bush administration didn't respond at all to the court subpoena. They just waited until her apparent suicide and then filed a motion to dismiss the case because she was dead. Convenient, no?

More info:
http://www.opednews.com/thoreau1103bush_rape_suicide.htm
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jasop Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 02:41 PM
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50. HOLY CRAP!!
I just read the court petitions! This is incredible! This could destroy BushCo.. and yet nothing will be done. So typical...
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 02:04 PM
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48. my letter to lots of people...w/ e mail addresses...
RE: Ray Lemme, deceased, former employee of Florida Department of Transportation


March 9, 2005

Dear Florida Secretary of Transportation Abreu:

I assume that you know something about one of your deceased employees, Ray Lemme. He was investigating allegations re: a link to Feeney and vote manipulation.
Recent updates are available:

1. http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2005-02-10/news/news.html February 9, 2005
2. http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001243.htm

As per the #1 above,

"On March 29, 2002, a frustrated Curtis sent an e-mail to FDOT Chief Information Officer Nelson Hill. "Invoices depicting the overbilling claims... clearly on the documents presented to the IG's Office," Curtis wrote. "I can only assume that, since Tom Feeney is Yang's official lobbyist, nothing was done......
On April 1, 2002, Curtis and Georgalis were fired, ostensibly for violating FDOT policies in monitoring the Yang project. (A judge later reinstated Georgalis pending the outcome of her whistle-blower lawsuit.) But even after their dismissal, Ray Lemme, an official with the FDOT Inspector General's Office, continued to investigate the allegations. In June 2003, according to Curtis' affidavit, Lemme met with him. He reportedly told Curtis that he had traced the case "all the way to the top."


Why do I care about this? The manipulation of the FL vote is of paramount importance to every single American citizen. All the States are tethered.

More specifically, the FL vote as associated with the 2004 election is very suspicious; it was suspicious in 2000. I will not go into that matter here, but here is an incomplete list of resources as pertaining to that matter:

1. http://USTogether.org/Florida_Election.htm)
2. https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapCounty&state=Florida&county= Leon&cat=ALL&tab=FP04
3.http://ustogether.org/election04/dopp/dopp_response.html
4. www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm.
5.http://ustogether.org/election04/florida_vote_patt.htm
6.http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2516993
7.http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Jordan-Daw... (2000 FL Election report)
8. http://rottendenmark.blogspot.com (November 17, 2004 post)
9. http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/ale04090.html.
10. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm
11. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
12. http://mayflowerhill.blogspot.com/2004/11/mayflower-hill-exclusive-warren.html
13. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x64921
14. http://www.dakotatechnics.com/downloads/
15. http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/
16. http://www.talion.com/blackboxvoting.org.htm (2000 General Election)
17. http://electionexamination.blogspot.com/ (Post: November 20, 2004)
18. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm; http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PAL410B.html
19. http://www.flcv.com/fla04EAS.html
20. http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121804I.shtml
21. http://www.bluelemur.com/wp-trackback.php/507
22. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050103/ap_on_re_us/brf_florida_ballots
23. http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011805Y.shtml
24. Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election, http://www.usccr.gov/.



As you can see, a very intensive effort by many researchers, statisticians, reporters, and bloggers has been taking place over the last 4 years.

I am asking for your full support of a more thorough investigation of the circumstances re: Ray Lemme's demise.

I do not believe he committed suicide: his only daughter was about to marry and he was engaged in that process. I believe he was murdered. Let us have an autopsy (it is not required by GA statutes; however, the circumstances were highly suspicious and this should have taken place as mandated by Georgia statutes,IMO)

Please pass this around to anyone you please.


Sincerely,


Marsha V. Hammond, PhD: a concerned citizen



cc: Police Chief: Frank Simons, City of Valdosta: fsimons@valdostacity.com
Mr. Nelson: FL DOT: nelson.hill@dot.state.fl.us
Sean Salai: reporter: Boca Raton newspaper: ssalai@bocanews.com
Bill Faulkner: falconcam@msn.com: manager of yahoo group:
Trevor Aaronson: reporter
Keith Olbermann: MSNBC
Kathy Dopp: statistician: kathy@directell.com
M. Stewart: reporter: Tallahassee: mstewart@tallahassee.com
Fred Grimm: Miami Herald reporter: fgrimm@herald.com
Thom Hartmann: investigative reporter: thom@thomhartman.com
K.Zetter: writer at Wired: kzetter@wired.com
Gary Fineout: reporter: Miami Herald: gfineout@herald.com




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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 04:01 PM
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53. bruising on the neck is consistent with an injection wound
bleeding under the skin down the fascia, not contusion injury. The medical examiner needs to be questioned.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:09 PM
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54. KICK!
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:18 PM
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56. Will try to look into that...
...Thanks!

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:42 PM
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61. BRAD: You forgot to mention the bruises all over his face
They're a little hard to see in the photos from the main insider-mag article, but if you go to the insider-mag homepage where they provide the link to the article there is another profile photo taken from the right-hand side of Lemme that clearly shows several brusies on his face and forehead.
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blue4barb Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:12 AM
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57. Anyone know if Wayne Madsen has weighed in on this yet?
I first learned about Ray Lemme in one of his research articles about election fraud.

I just checked in at Online Journal where he posts, and there is a new
article (dated March 9, 2005) but it's not about Clint Curtis/Ray Lemme. It's titled: Time for Nuremberg II

http://www.onlinejournal.com (Special Reports)

Does it seem like he's gone off on a lot of tangents since he first covered the election fraud investigation? I really wish he would do more follow up on the election fraud story.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:53 PM
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59. Thom Hartman said he is going to discuss this issue today. -eom
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Teena Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:25 PM
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60. rechecking myself
I posted a message earlier asking about Curtis' timing on writing the vote flipping software, thinking it was late in 2000. Seems it, indeed, must have been early enough in the year to use in the November election. Does anyone know why he calls Yang Enterprises "Wong" on his www.justafly.com site? Me thinks it isn't written by Curtis or he is just trying to stay out of court.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 01:38 AM
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63. kick n/t
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