A Must Read With Strong Proof Of MAJOR Florida Vote Fraud

[Trojan]

Dear DU'ers

I received this link in my email this morning.It is in my Opinion the clearest and most conclusive evidence of a STOLEN ELECTION.

Please keep the link for your own information and for future updates.


Unless WE here at DU get this and other such serious proof into the International Media ALL the issues will remain hidden. Let us organize this so we get this into the media. Perhaps a letter to Senator Byrd and Senator Kennedy to ask them to study this and speak out might be helpful.

Feedback on this Thread would be most appreciated.

Thank You...

The LINK:

http://thesquanderer.com/votingmachines.html

[Sperk]

1. check the link please.

n/t

[L84TEA]

2. could you repost the link ...thanks

[Trojan]

6. The Link is now Corrected

Sorry about that. PLease read the Information now that the Link is Up and Running... Thanks again

Trojan

[Trajan]

3. Hey ...

What's up with that name ? ..

[RBHam]

4. a link that works?

send this to the [e-mail] and keith olber-dude

[Mister K]

5. try this

HTTP://Thesquanderer.com/votingmachines.html

[Buzz Clik]

7. here's the working link

http://Thesquanderer.com/votingmachines.html

[pk_du]

8. LINK WORKS (for me at least) n/t

[Karmadillo]

9. Link working and worth the click. The Squanderer

has done a nice job of presenting the information and gets extra points for acknowledging and responding to evidence that is at odds with the charts.

[Trojan]

10. WE Need Get this Data Widely Distributed

Please send this Link to All your Sources ASAP...

It needs PUBLIC EXPOSURE and Discussion or else it will make NO DIFFERENCE...The KEY is Distribution...Send it to the Arab News Sources. They will distribute it for sure. This is ALL about FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY.

[pleiku52cab]

13. Sent link to Tom Lyon at Sarasota (Fla) Herald Tribune

he purports the 'Dixiecrat' explanation - hope this opens his eyes

[Elidor]

11. A careful parsing of the word 'PROOF'

Shows that this story has no such thing. There is a big difference between saying the vote was inaccurate and showing proof of fraud. Maybe proof of fraud will turn up at some point, but all this shows is that our voting process is on a par with a banana republic.

[cdp]

12. I agree that this isn't "proof"

I like the fact that this website addresses arguments against his case. I think someone here posted a link to a scientific website that concluded that dixiecrats have been voting for republicans for years, that the opscan machines were used mostly in rural areas.

1. He needs to address 2000 vs. 2004 though.
2. He needs to see the Opscan results in a non-rural area.

If anyone has info related to the above, let me know.

[Trojan]

14. I agree with the Comment about PROOF But...

Let us just go to the Bottom Line about the Election Results.

George Walker Bush and his Gang of Neo-Cons stole Democracy away from all Americans. If Robert Byrd and Edward Kennedy don't seem to mind if they are aware of this, then what then. I am a Canadian citizen living in Montreal. Write a letter to Senator Byrd, the one TRUE American Politician. If anyone has the Guts to call a National Press Conference to ask for a Formal Investigation by the Senate, This True Patriot does.

Good Luck America

[confrontationclaws]

15. About those "Dixiecrats"...

I give credit to the author for at least acknowledging the problems that may exist with his analysis. That being said, his "debunking" of the "Dixiecrat" explanation is very weak. He cites a CNN poll showing that only 14% of Florida democrats voted for Bush. This is a meaningless statistic UNLESS it can be broken down by county. It should be obvious that in the metro areas with high numbers of "real" democrats there was likely LESS crossover, and in rural areas where the Dixiecrats live there was more crossover. Since the raw number of "Dixiecrat" democrats is much less than the "real" democrats, it makes sense that the STATEWIDE crossover is a low percentage.

We should be more concerned with number of votes cast versus number of registered voters.

[cdp]

17. good point

If there were some counties with real democrats (more urban counties with less dixiecrats) that had this huge republican bias, he could still have a case though. I think.

[DuaneBidoux]

16. I'm not sure but I think this is the Red Herring that could sink

us. Some of the counties in the panhandle have 70% registered Dems and if you check they have always voted Repug. It could be that there has always been fraud, but I suspect if you were to stop in at a small town diner and start talking with these "Democrats" you would quickly find out that everyone they know around them voted Bush.

[onenote]

18. not good enough

I want it to be, but it just isn't. We aren't going to convince folks if we make claims based on a methodology that that can easily be shot down. For example, the table showing actual v. expected results has the following information for Baker County:

Baker: actual B/C =7,738
actual K/E =2,180
expected B/C = 2,415
expected K/E = 6,895
B/C "over" = 220.4%
K/E "under" -68.4%

The problem is that if you can go back years and years and the results in Baker County consistently show signicant GOP majorities in presidential elections. The data is all available at http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/Index.asp

A few examples: Bush I/Dukakis == 3414/1353
Bush I/Clinton == 3417/1974
Dole/Clinton == 3684/2773
Bush II/Gore == 5610/2392
(keep in mind that the GOP totals in a couple of these years probably were held down by votes going to Perot).

I think that the B/C jump from 5610 to 7738, while K/E droped (vis-a-vis Gore) from 2392 to 2180 raises a red flag. BUT --- trying to attack with speculative "expected" results that are contradicted by historical voting patterns is the wrong way to go.

onenote