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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:42 AM
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Voting Fraud in the USA
Once upon a time there were two brothers: Bob and Todd Urosevich. In the 1980's, with the financial backing of the right-wing extremist Christian billionaire Howard Ahmanson, Bob and Todd founded a company called American Information Systems (AIS) that built voting machines. They were also certified to count votes. It is interesting to note that back then there was no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. Even more interesting is the fact that this is still true today. Not even the Federal Election Commission (FEC) has a complete list of all the companies that count votes in U.S. elections.


Voting Fraud in the USA
Did you know....

80% of all votes in America are counted by o­nly two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

35% of ES&S is owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, who became Senator based o­n votes counted by ES&S machines.

Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

Diebold is based in Ohio and supplies almost all the voting machines there.

None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

30% of all U.S. votes are carried out o­n unverifiable touch screen voting machines.

Bush's Help America Vote Act of 2002 has as its goal to replace all machines with the new electronic touch screen systems.

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel owns 35% of ES&S and was caught lying about it

ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

Exit polls for the 2004 elections were accurate within 1% or less in areas where ballot machines were used.

Major exit poll data discrepancies were noted in counties where touch screen machines were used, especially in Ohio and Florida.


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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:49 AM
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1. 404 error response to link
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:55 AM
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2. Bravo RBHam....
though you need a new link. Perhaps this improtantand relevant of information should be sent to Rep. Conyers, Wexler and the rest. It certainly would add to their case. I am sure Keith Olberman would find this facinating as well.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:37 AM
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3. "504 connection timed out" message to link (n/t)
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:59 AM
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4. LINK, sorry........
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 07:23 AM by RBHam
By the way, most of us in the "conspiracy theory" camp were screaming about this for years.

Bev Harris was sounding alarm bells BEFORE they stole the 2002 mid terms.

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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:16 AM
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5. Hey boys and girls, can you say FRAUD
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:16 AM
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6. No democracy should have privately-owned and counted voting
machines and ballots. There is ZERO transparency there.

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Help expose the 2004 Election Fraud!
http://geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/electionreform.htm
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:46 AM
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7. I Sent this to Keith O.....
Thank you for the fixed link. This was not news to me but to someone like Keith I think it might be quite an eye opener.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:05 AM
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8. I'm hoping Bill Moyers picks this up.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:54 AM
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9. Thanks.
Those are excellent stats to spread around.
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