BBV URGENT: Want recounts? Contact Cam Kerry NOW!!!

[hedda_foil]

Just got this in my email from DC lawyer Cynthia Butler. This is a listserv post that needs wide distribution.

I am angry and getting emails and recrimination from people
wondering why KERRY just caved and is not fighting this before the final count in Ohio, before any of the fraud was challenged, before New Mexico and Iowa even came in.
There is widespread feeling that he did not lose the election and that it was taken from him.
There is enough here to warrant investigation and enough to challenge the results. It's coming from all corners.
I understand that he has until the official count
certification in Ohio to Un Concede which is several days from now.
Anyone who thinks that he should unconcede should give reasons why - whatever they noticed, particularly in Red Republican Governed States using electronic machines- and send them directly to Cameron KERRY, John Kerry's brother at his law firm at the address **********

They should inform us if they were not allowed to vote provisionally (for whatever reason- they lost forms, ran out of forms, etc.) I personally witnessed a number of things as I reported in Texas with the DCCC. (Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee)
If you know anyone in particular in Ohio who tried to vote and was turned away at the polls please get their information and notify the campaign. They should be notified if they experienced lines longer than four hours -particularly elderly or infirm people (we call that torture when they do it to political prisoners) . They should be notified if people were told as has been reported that due to too many people showing up in African American precincts, particularly in Ohio where there were too few booths (some only had two or three for the entire precinct) and told because of heavy turn out they could vote on Wednesday.
If the numbers of these sorts of incidents creates a percentage margin that exceeds
the margin of victory- Un Concession has to be made to challenge the count.
If people wanted to and tried to vote and were prevented or actively discouraged from doing so, that is a Civil Rights matter and must be dealt with in terms of the ultimate count.

This is the last email that I am writing on this subject in this venue. I am taking it up in other venues.
Please pass along this to your listservs so that we may make Democracy Work in America. We are not a country where he who cheats best wins.



Cynthia L. Butler

BUTLER LAW FIRM, P.C.
1717 K St. NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036

*** Edited by Admin to remove personal email address ***

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. What about Florida?

[hedda_foil]

3. Florida TOO! Florida is the new Florida!

Please nominate this thread and keep it kicked.

[goclark]

4. We need a flyer to get the word out!

Can anyone help us?

[AzDar]

16. kick n/t

[goclark]

2. I just nominated this to the front page- Skinner where are you!

Please everyone help us out on this one.

We are worker bees and the clock is ticking.

We need someone to make a flyer with the basic info, something that we can pass out ,especially if they are in Ohio , Florida/Red States.

Kick, kick

[Old and In the Way]

5. Done

[blm]

6. Good deal, hedda.

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[Castilleja]

7. Kick--n/t

[Jade Fox]

8. Done

[whirlygigspin]

13. action alert!

We need to make this a nation wide appeal,
in every local paper, website, radio, news...
any way you can think of to spread this out.

Please contact **********

1. If you were not allowed to vote provisionally
2. If you were turned away from the polls
3. If you had to wait in line longer than 4 hours
4. If you were prevented or discouraged from voting
5. If you have any information about similar incidences
or If you have any information about cases of voter fraud,
ballot tampering, discarded ballots, voting machines counting
backwards, numbers of voters exceeding registered voter totals or
malfunctions and or any other questionable incidences;

Please contact: ***********

spread this far and wide, you have nothing to lose but your vote.

*** Edited by Admin to remove personal email address. ***

[goclark]

9. I am seeing two of the same post???

[bufffbison]

10. done!

done... i have also posted this at http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org

[crispini]

11. Question. If we don't have personal knowledge of

any of the occurrences requested in the post, but would like to email him anyway with some of the evidence on this board, would that be appropriate? I don't want to fill up his email inbox with stuff that's not direct evidence, but I would like to let them know we want them to get involved.

[goclark]

12. Good pt. Maybe we can send them an email to read DU

Something tells me they are all doing that however.

Huuum, the clock is ticking folks.
We are the worker bees.

[whirlygigspin]

14. do we have a list of all the various groups that did poll monitoring?

they should all be contacted and sent this info asap.

[goclark]

15. I don't but somebody must... help!

[Cha]

18. Great question, crispini!

I'm up here in New York..no irregularities in my small town but from what I'm reading..there were plenty in Ohio, New Hampshire, Florida and who knows where else to give bush his "man-date"!

We knew they wouldn't let go of the power with a Huge Struggle ..well, here it is!

[redsoxliberal]

17. DUne

[Eloriel]

19. Excellent

:kick:


And on another (related) note please also see this thread to help raise public awareness of the problem nationwide:

VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1800

[MassLiberal]

20. kick n/t

[karlrschneider]

21. Kick and another point...He can "unconcede" any time before the EC votes

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[txindy]

33. Yep, plus if fraud enters into it (& it will) , the EC result will be void

Even if B*sh holds out until the EC meets, fraudulent results will not stand.

[acmavm]

22. Okay, sent the word about the double count of votes in Sarpy County,

Nebraska.

This wouldn't be such a huge issue except that this friggin' state is solidly republican. So why, if things were kosher, would the vote be screwed anywhere here at all? Someone forgot that they didn't need to bother with scamming the votes here? Sheesh.

The voting machines and software were manufactured by Election Systems and Software. Good ol' Chuck Hagel's company.

[Divine Discontent]

23. kick n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

24. Kick

:kick:

[Oak2004]

25. kick

Kick

[goclark]

26. Work on Fraud for just one hour folks!

This is so important to keep kicked and keep working on it.

[Oak2004]

27. kick

kick

[tommcintyre]

28. I'm sending the link to my site to him

Hopefully it will be useful, since so much info is gathered in one place. And, I will keep adding more as things develop.

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm


Sections:

Article Sections:

11-2-04 and newer:

Featured

Evoting

On Site

Other voter fraud

Older



Other Sections:

Web sites

New Additions

Legislation

Things you can do



Hundreds of resources available through these pages

UPDATED CONSTANTLY. CHECK THE "New Additions" PAGE EACH TIME YOU COME BACK

Du post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=28512&mesg_id=28512

[goclark]

37. Now that's the way we need to roll txs!

[EndElectoral]

29. Why can't the DNC canvas a poll of registered DEM's in a small county that

went Bush?

[glitch]

30. EXACTLY - Simple enough to do - would a take a few days and

wouldn't cost anything (relatively speaking) and it would be a fine place to start.

[goclark]

34. That was my idea too, I wanted a visual count of Demos

[Career Prole]

31. Done n/t

[Oak2004]

32. kick

kick again, this is important

[kerrygoddess]

35. Link On John Kerry Website to send complaints

http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/

Report an Election Day Problem
We want to make sure that every voter is counted. If you experienced or witnessed a problem at your polling place, please let us know.

http://www.johnkerry.com/forms/electiondayreport.php

[Oak2004]

36. My e-mail:

We need to have recounts of optical scanned ballots in Ohio and Florida, as well as recounts in any other precinct in swing states where exit polls did not match the results and suspicions have been raised by statisticians who, on their own free time, have analyzed the vote and found likely irregularities.

Lets face it: exit polling is so accurate its been used as a tool to monitor third world nations. It's been spot-on in every American election in every state but twice: in Florida in 2000, where we now know that Gore really did win, and now in a few contested states in 2004. What's more, as someone with formal training in physics, I know that error should be scattered on both sides of the mean -- but every "erroneous" national election exit poll that America has ever seen has always, always fallen on the side of "overestimating" the support of opponents of George W. Bush.

Bluntly: this stinks to high heaven.

John Kerry promised me, as a Kerry donor, volunteer, voter, and citizen, that he would make sure that every vote would be properly counted in this election. I'm calling upon you to deliver on your promise to me and to the tens of millions of us who gave of what we could spare from our paychecks and pension checks and allowances, who stood in lines, in the cold and the rain, of up to 10 hours to cast our votes for John Kerry.

Anything less would mean that, sadly, we had a commander who cut and ran and left his troops alone in battle.

And it would mean that democracy in America had failed -- utterly failed -- and could no longer be relied upon to prevent extremism from keeping its grasp on the reins of power indefinitely. What does that mean? Did you hear of the angry mob that rushed the statehouse in Ohio after the election? Or the mob that tried to burn down a Republican headquarters in NC? Did you know that Canada has had a record number of requests for immigration information? Did you know that PTA moms were passing out black armbands at their meetings, that citizens in many states are seriously talking secession, that I even heard a respected county prosecutor talk quite seriously of revolution.

THIS IS WHAT THE FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY MEANS. And from the look in the eyes of the people in the street, I can tell you it will only get worse.

Please, please: we *must* have honest hand recounts everywhere where
suspicions have been raised.

Sincerely
XXXXXXXXXX

[usrbs]

38. Great letter!

I'm saving it so that I can use it as a basis when I try to get my local politicians to become aware.

[flpeach]

39. But but . . . .

But don't you need to ask for AUDITS? If you go to Florida and ask for a "recount," they'll just count the absentee ballots again. They will use the same total from the e-votes. Ask for AUDITS from the e-machines. Bev could explain.

[Eloriel]

41. Excellent letter

If you don't mind people borrowing from it, would you mind posting it to one (or all) of these threads as a sample:

URGENT: VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
GENERAL NAME TBA FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662

PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS AND DECISIONS FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x28336


REPORT VOTING PROBLEMS FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1764#1815

[Eloriel]

40. kick

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[smurfygirl]

42. THIS COULD BE A SCAM> WHO VERIFIED THIS

ADDRESS? I JUST LOOKED UP CAM'S ADDRESS AT THE LAW FIRM IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE SHE HAS GIVEN. ALSO, I CAN FIND NO LISTING FOR A CYNTHIA BUTLER OR A BUTLER LAW FIRM IN D.C.

HERE IS THE LINK FOR GETTING CAM'S CONTACT INFO.
http://www.mintz.com/about/directory/

I JUST EMAILED HIM AND WILL CALL IN THE MORNING TO VERIFY THAT THE EMAIL SHE GAVE US IS CORRECT.
IT COULD BE ANOTHER EMAIL OR WE COULD HAVE JUST BEEN FOOLED INTO GIVING SOMEONE A BUNCH OF EVIDENCE SO THEY COULD SEE WHERE WE ARE AT.
PLEASE VERIFY ALL ADDRESSES AND TELL US THEY ARE VERIFIED WHEN POSTING SUCH THINGS.

[indigo]

43. Look in Martindale.com

and you'll find a listing. (Not vouching for email in this thread -- know nothing about it).

[Name removed]

45. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[BernieBear]

46. Legit. I sent to original email address in OP and received a "read"

receipt from "Cam Kerry" along with the Boston Phone number and the name in the law firm listed in the small print in the email footer. So I think it's legit. Thanks for raising this important question though. Gosh, how awful that would have been.

Bernie

[AgadorSparticus]

44. kick

:kick:

[SoCalDemocrat]

47. Do we write Butler?

The other address was removed.