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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:24 PM
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Dems Meet LaRouche's Challenge; Debate Shreds Bush 'Mandate'
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 07:32 PM by Freddie Stubbs
by Jeffrey Steinberg


For the first time since 1877, the two houses of the U.S. Congress went into separate sessions on Jan. 6, to debate a challenge to the outcome of the Electoral College vote for the Presidency of the United States. Unlike the 2000 elections, when leading members of the House of Representatives challenged the Florida outcome, but failed to win the needed endorsement of a U.S. Senator, this time, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) joined with Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D) in challenging the Electoral College vote in Ohio, on the grounds of massive evidence of voter suppression and other forms of willful fraud.

As a result, the Joint Session of Congress, convened to ratify the Electoral College vote, was dismissed, so that the House and the Senate could hold two hours of separate debate on the evidence of vote suppression and fraud, before voting whether or not to certify the outcome of the Nov. 2, 2004 Presidential election.

As an apoplectic Vice President Dick Cheney, presiding over the joint session as President Pro Tem of the Senate, graphically attested, the courageous action by the Congressional Democrats, and the vigorous debate that followed, have erased any delusions that George W. Bush has any kind of electoral mandate to rule.

The LaRouche Factor

Twenty-four hours before the historic Joint Session of Congress, Lyndon LaRouche delivered an international webcast address, by satellite link, to a standing-room-only crowd in Washington, D.C. (see Feature). In response to the first question, LaRouche issued unambiguous marching orders to the Congressional Democrats, that they had to take the most tenacious approach possible to the issue of the Electoral College certification.

more: http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3202ohio_jan6_fight.html

I think that we all owe Mr. LaRouche a big thank you for his help. :wow:
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:27 PM
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1. Pffffttt!!! Freddie I hope you are prepared for all the requests for new
keyboards that little wrap up comment of yours will inevitably generate!

Which reminds me; Please send me a new keyboard.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:38 AM
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7. He is the one who "issued the marching orders"
to the Democrats in Congress, according to the story. I'll bet you didn't know that Mr. LaRouche had this much influence. ;)
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mslux Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:28 PM
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2. So Hitler feeds a stray dog,
do we have to thank him?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:30 PM
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3. I just can't bring myself to do that
He's just too much of a nutjob. I grant you, even a broken clock is right twice a day. At the moment, he's trying to sell himself as a Democrat. But still, a nutjob nonetheless.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:30 PM
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4. Thanks to the ever nutty Lyndon LaRouche!
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 07:50 PM by norml
Though you may be a bizarre nut, you helped on this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, Jr. (born September 8, 1922) is an American political activist who leads political organizations in the United States and other countries. He is a perennial candidate for President of the United States, having set a record for most consecutive attempts at the office by running eight times. However, he and his followers have never gained significant electoral support. Although he has no formal qualifications, he has written extensively on economic as well as political subjects, particularly focused on conspiracy theories.

He is frequently described as an extremist or a cult leader, and is accused of being a fascist and anti-Semite. He denies these charges. He is regarded by his followers as a brilliant and unfairly persecuted individual.

In 1988 LaRouche was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment for conspiracy, mail fraud, and tax code violations. He continued his political activities from behind bars. He was released in 1994 on parole after having served five years.

As of 2003, his formal positions are director and contributing editor of the Executive Intelligence Review News Service, Inc. and member of the International Ecological Academy of Moscow, Russia. <1> (http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2002/N00002047_2002.pdf) snip

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Lyndon_LaRouche His political views are extremely controversial and are characterized by his belief in a number of complex conspiracy theories, involving global plots to establish a frightening New World Order, involving such figures as the British Royal Family (especially the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh), George P. Shultz, and George H. W. Bush and other circles of international bankers engaging in what he has characterized as a "synarchist" political movement of the oligarchy. A typical claim is that the government of East Germany-- with the complicity of U.S. government and private organizations! -- attempted to frame him for the murder of Swedish prime minister Olof Palme. According to LaRouche followers, this claim was corroborated on Swedish national radio in August of 1992, by a leading former East German Stasi officer, Dr. Herbert Brehmer. LaRouche's opponents on the political conservative right have characterized him as a fascist and a communist, his opponents on the political liberal and socialist left have characterized him as a fascist, Bonapartist, and a right-wing populist. LaRouche currently characterizes himself as an Franklin Delano Roosevelt Democrat.

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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:34 PM
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5. Isn't he dead yet
or at the very least committed to an asylum. I don't think I will thank him. It reminds me about the infinite amount of monkeys bangin away on typewrites, sooner or later one of them will come up with Hamlet.
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anaxarchos Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:15 AM
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6. The organization changes but LaRouche never goes away...

I ran into his crew maybe 25 or 30 years ago. Then they were the ultra-leftist "National Caucus of Labor Committees". They physically attacked leftists for not being left enough. Much later, during the Reagan years, the same crew, with a new set of names, showed up on the far far right. Now he's a Democrat?

There has got to be a detailed debunking of him in the archives of the Southern Poverty Law Center or the Anti-Defamation League.



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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:00 PM
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8. Well I give you a few hints
1)P2, Propaganda Doua __SP?_Italy IIRC
2)Vatican bank heist---money was never found-then Laroach got more active in the USA right after that.
3)Cult like behavior of Members


If Mr Laroach had good judgement --well---let me put ot this way :
Laroach siddled up to Reagan to support SDI research in the early 1980's. Laroach lauded the economic benifits of a masssive well funded research drive.
Then the Reagan Bush Peeps Jailed Laroach-he gets out of jail-becomes the FDR Democrate---rails against Reagan. CAlling Reagan the Devil Incarnate--my words but not too far off.

Ahhh Mr. Laroach Did you think you could go to the Devils Party--eat the Devils canapes--dance with Devil---drink the Devils drink---and leave at 10:30pm---NO DUDE you are staying the nite--

In the Devils JAIL---

Only after being in jail did Mr laroach decide that Reagan was a BAD MAN.


Not very good Judgement Mr Laroach----pretty poor in fact
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:40 AM
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9. Bad judgment, but
he and his followers do provide some pretty rich entertainment.
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NationalEnquirer Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:56 AM
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10. Sorry, but he is a nutcase.
Thats all we need, to associate with the likes of him, and further marginalize ourselves.
No thanks.
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