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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:06 PM
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Tom DeLay's Amazing Remarks Yesterday - transcript >
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:10 PM by Stephanie

Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I rise to claim the remainder of the time.

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for the remainder of the time.

Mrs. JONES of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, can I ask how much time that is?

The SPEAKER. In the tradition of the House, the gentleman from Texas is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, what is happening here today is amazing but not surprising. Mr. Speaker, what we are witnessing here today is a shame. A shame. The issues at stake in this petition are gravely, gravely serious. This is not just having a debate. But the specific charges, as any objective observer must acknowledge, are not. That is because the purpose of this petition is not justice but noise.

It is a warning to Democrats across the country, now in the midst of soul searching after their historic losses in November, not to moderate their party's message.

It is just the second day of the 109th Congress and the first chance of the Democrat congressional leadership to show the American people what they have learned since President Bush's historic reelection, and they can show that, but they have turned to what might be called the ``X-Files Wing'' of the Democrat Party to make their first impression.

Rather than substantive debate, Democrat leaders are still adhering to a failed strategy of spite, obstruction, and conspiracy theories. They accuse the President, who we are told is apparently a closet computer nerd, of personally overseeing the development of vote-stealing software.

We are told, without any evidence, that unknown Republican agents stole the Ohio election and that its electoral votes should be awarded to the winner of an exit poll instead.

Many observers will discard today's petition as a partisan waste of time, but it is much worse than that. It is an assault against the institutions of our representative democracy. It is a threat to the very ideals it ostensibly defends. No one is served by this petition, not in the long run. And in the short term, its only beneficiaries are its proponents themselves.

Democrats around the country have asked since Election Day, and will no doubt ask again today, how it came to this. The Democrat Party, the party that was once an idealistic, forward-looking, policy colossus. The New Deal, the Marshall Plan, the Great Society, the space program, civil rights. And yet today one is hard pressed to find a single positive substantive idea coming from the left.

Instead, the Democrats have replaced statecraft with stagecraft, substance with style, and not a very fashionable style at that. The petitioners claim that they act on behalf of disenfranchised voters, but no such voter disenfranchisement occurred in this election of 2004 and for that matter the election of 2000.



<Time: 15:45>

Everybody knows it. The voters know it, the candidates know it, the courts know it, and the evidence proves it.

We are not here to debate evidence, but to act our roles in some scripted, insincere morality play.

Now, just remember: pre-election memos revealed that Democrat campaign operatives around the country were encouraged by their high command in Washington to charge voter fraud and intimidation regardless of whether any of it occurred. Remember, neither of the Democrat candidates supposedly robbed in Ohio endorse this petition. It is a crime against the dignity of American democracy, and that crime is not victimless.

The Democrat leadership came down to the floor and said this is a good debate; we ought to be having a debate on this issue.

<Page: H122> GPO's PDF

This is not a normal debate. This is a direct attack to undermine our democracy by using a procedure to undermine the constitutional election that was just held.

If, as now appears likely, Democrats cry fraud and corruption every election regardless of the evidence, what will happen when one day voters are routinely intimidated, rights are denied, or, God forbid, an election is robbed? What will happen? What will happen when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying wolf so poisons our democratic processes that a similarly frivolous petition in a close election in the future is actually successful, and the American people are denied their constitutional right to choose their own President?

Mr. Speaker, Democrats must find a way to rise above this self-destructive and, yes, plain destructive theory of politics for its own sake. A dangerous precedent is being set here today, and it needs to be curbed, because Democrat leaders are not just hurting themselves. By their irresponsible tactics, they hurt the House, they hurt the Nation, and they hurt rank-and-file Democrats at kitchen tables all around this country.

The American people, and their ancestors who invented our miraculous system of government, deserve better than this. This petition is beneath us, Mr. Speaker; but, more importantly, it is beneath the men and women that we serve.

Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues, both Democrat and Republican, to do the right thing. Vote ``no,'' and let us get back to the real work that the American people hired us to do.

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COUNTING ELECTORAL VOTES--JOINT SESSION OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE HELD PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 1 (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES--JANUARY 6, 2005) -- (House of Representatives - January 06, 2005)

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NickiWitch Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:07 PM
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1. "Gentleman"
Yeah...right.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:10 PM
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2. Just seeing that speech in print again I feel slimed all over again.
Yeeech that man is a monster. Thanks for posting it.
I will keep a hard copy for my records. The audacity, malignancy and hypocrisy of this man is mind-boggling, absolutely astounding.

I see an orange jumpsuit in his future.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:13 PM
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3. Why didn't we here our leadership saying fraud and corruption?
The cheaters know the American people are denied their constitutional right to choose their own President. Why were the Republicans the only ones crying FRAUD? :wtf: :argh: :freak:
I watched yesterday and still want to here one person say BUSHIT! KERRY WON BUSH CHEATED and should be seen next in prison.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:14 PM
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4. Our "miraculous system of government"?!
Doesn't anyone in that whole party speak ENGLISH?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:37 PM
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13. Didn't you know the Constitution is a faith-based document?
That Jefferson turned water into wine at the first inauguration?
That George Washington healed the dead at Lexington and Concord?
That Ben Franklin discovered electricity because God told him where to find it?

</sarcasm>
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gonefishing Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:16 PM
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5. Imagine if these jerk off's were in charge during Watergate...
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:45 PM
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34. If that were true we'd STILL be in Vietnam! eom
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:19 PM
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6. Nice writing there, Karl. er... Tom.
Rove --- DeLay

Which one has the Toni ?

:shrug:
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darkworkz Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:21 PM
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7. Don't you get it?
This is your first true view inside the heart of the neocon superstructure. Sure it's ugly, dark, and evil. But the thing is, this is your first look at their true selves. They never wanted you to see it but yesterdays event forced them into the open and now their afraid. Why? Because they know they've been exposed in a way that they can never cover back up. Pulling the rest of the "curtain" down from this point isn't that much effort. Just serious organization and persistence.

Not that hard.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:53 PM
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19. Yes. You are right. They have shown their ugliness. It may scare some
especially Democrats in "power," but the people will see it for what it is.

That's why it is important to keep seeing these speeches and sharing them.
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:21 PM
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8. Mr. Delay
As ye sow, so shall ye reap. And I will be waiting for that time to come sooner rather than later.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:28 PM
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10. Yes, indeed
And there's a nice warm spot waiting for him in HELL. :evilgrin:
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:23 PM
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9. Tell him he brought it on himself
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:00 PM
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20. That's an excellent idea. And tell the media too by sending them copies
of letters sent to Republicans.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:30 PM
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11. We're just crying wolf?!?
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 04:31 PM by Emit
"If, as now appears likely, Democrats cry fraud and corruption every election regardless of the evidence, what will happen when one day voters are routinely intimidated, rights are denied, or, God forbid, an election is robbed? What will happen? What will happen when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying wolf so poisons our democratic processes that a similarly frivolous petition in a close election in the future is actually successful, and the American people are denied their constitutional right to choose their own President?"
edited for typo

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:33 PM
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12. I will no longer refer to him as Tom Delay- from this point forward, he is
Tom De:puke:
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:39 PM
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14. That's right, Tom...
even the thought of merely reviewing, questioning or discussing the processes by which the American people exercise the very basic right of democracy is, how did you put it?..."an assault against the institutions of our representative democracy."

Seems counterintuitive to me.

You, sir, are a "shame"...and a sham.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:41 PM
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15. I cannot believe he has the audacity to stand up and even speak
to anyone about any topic, he is an absolute joke! It is an absolute abomination that he is allowed to hold office at all. The folly of this administration is so blatant it is sickening. Any God fearing & patriotic American wants the votes to be counted, wants people to be assured their vote counts, those who objected were so transparent, they aren't fooling anyone. The Bush people should want the same things we want, and because they don't the public knows the real reason, no words can shield them.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:45 PM
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16. On the Senate side Cheney was snikering with Santorum
From Salon; As Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin made an impassioned plea for a bipartisan effort to improve the electoral system, Dick Cheney and Sen. Rick Santorum sat slumped in a couple of chairs on the edge of the Senate floor, talking and laughing. They weren't listening. With solid majorities in both houses, they didn't have to.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:36 PM
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31. I hate Santorum and I am ashamed that he is my Senator
In all honesty, I think PA wins the prize for the worst Senate duo. Santorum...well, I don't want to throw up so I won't go there. Specter, for all his moderate posturing, Mr. Magic Bullet, got Ira Einhorn out of jail so that he could escape justice and flee to Europe for decades when he knew he was guilty of capital murder. The man has no real morals.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:48 PM
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17. Ah, I was thinking I was gonna have to type it out! Thanks!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:52 PM
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18. LOL! Someone had to help me find it . Here >
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:24 PM
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21. Just found: missing speech from 1998

Mr. Speaker, what is happening here today is amazing but not surprising. Mr. Speaker, what we are witnessing here today is a shame. A shame. The issues at stake in this petition are gravely, gravely serious. This is not just having a debate. But the specific charges, as any objective observer must acknowledge, are not. That is because the purpose of this petition is not justice but noise.

It is a warning to Republicans across the country, now in the midst of soul searching after their historic losses in November, not to moderate their party's message.

It is just days since the election and a last chance of the Republican congressional leadership to show the American people what they have learned since the opposition's historic losses in a non-presidential election, and they can show that, but they have turned to what might be called the ``PTL Club Wing'' of the Republic Party to make their first impression.

Rather than substantive debate, Republic leaders are still adhering to a failed strategy of spite, obstruction, and legalistic fabrication. They accuse the President, who we are told is apparently a closet pervert, of personally corrupting our entire society.

We are told, despite the opposing opinion of nearly every legal scholar in this great country, that the President lied under oath.

Many observers will discard today's petition as a partisan waste of time, but it is much worse than that. It is an assault against the institutions of our representative democracy. It is a threat to the very ideals it ostensibly defends. No one is served by this petition, not in the long run. And in the short term, its only beneficiaries are its proponents themselves.

Republicans around the country have asked since Election Day, and will no doubt ask again today, how it came to this. The Republic Party, the party that was once an idealistic, forward-looking, policy colossus. The Abolition of Slavery, the Park Service, the Environmental Protection Agency. And yet today one is hard pressed to find a single positive substantive idea coming from the right.

Instead, the Republicans have replaced statecraft with stagecraft, substance with style, and not a very fashionable style at that. The petitioners claim that they act on behalf of outraged voters, but if the voters were so outraged, why were we so handily defeated in this election of 1998?

Everybody knows it. The voters know it, the candidates know it, the courts know it, and the evidence proves it.

We are not here to debate evidence, but to act our roles in some scripted, insincere morality play.

Now, just remember: pre-election memos revealed that Republic campaign operatives around the country were encouraged by their high command in Washington to charge impeachment, treason and high crimes or misdemeanors regardless of whether any of it occurred. It is a crime against the dignity of American democracy, and that crime is not victimless.

The Republic leadership came down to the floor and said this is a good debate; we ought to be having a debate on this issue.

This is not a normal debate. This is a direct attack to undermine our democracy by using a procedure to undermine the constitutional election that was just held.

If, as now appears likely, Republicans cry impeachment every election regardless of the evidence, what will happen when one day a president commits heinous crimes, or, God forbid, treason? What will happen? What will happen when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying wolf so poisons our democratic processes that a similarly frivolous petition in the future is actually successful, and the American people are denied their constitutional right to choose their own President?

Mr. Speaker, Republicans must find a way to rise above this self-destructive and, yes, plain destructive theory of politics for its own sake. A dangerous precedent is being set here today, and it needs to be curbed, because Republic leaders are not just hurting themselves. By their irresponsible tactics, they hurt the House, they hurt the Nation, and they hurt rank-and-file Republicans at kitchen tables all around this country.

The American people, and their ancestors who invented our miraculous system of government, deserve better than this. This petition is beneath us, Mr. Speaker; but, more importantly, it is beneath the men and women that we serve.

Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues, both Democrat and Republican, to do the right thing. Vote ``no,'' and let us get back to the real work that the American people hired us to do.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:24 PM
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22. Was Delay a complete ass...
or was it speech after well crafted speech by the Dems that makes him look the illness he is to our democracy?
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:22 PM
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27. Yes on both counts. (n/t)
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Bill MI Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:42 PM
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33. He showed the same nutty ignorance as always...
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:26 PM
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23. Every time I hear DeLay talk...
I feel like I need to go take a shower.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:37 PM
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32. I was just ready to post the same thing! Eeew.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:12 PM
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24. Video of Delay Speech
Someone suggested in another thread that it might be useful to see the Delay video. Since you are on the topic, I thought I would post it here as well.



Real Media:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/delay_050106-02.rm


More videos from yesterday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=263907
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:22 PM
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25. thanks - too slow to stream from here
but that picture is just disgusting. thanks again. :)
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:35 PM
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30. That's too bad...
I thought I saw something odd in the broadcast.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:26 PM
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26. When Delay bursts in flames....
I do wish that I could witness it, just so I could walk by him and not even bother to piss on him. I could go on and on about this worthless windbag, but he simply is not worth a drop of piss to me.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:28 PM
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28. Frankly this is the most hypocritical of all his statements...
given he is a hard-core Dominionist

The Democrat Party, the party that was once an idealistic, forward-looking, policy colossus. The New Deal, the Marshall Plan, the Great Society, the space program, civil rights.

Wait, so Mr. Dominionist ReCONstructionist Christian thought civil rights and The New Deal were good ideas? BWHAHAHAH
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:29 PM
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29. You made me LOL!
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 11:31 PM by Stephanie
they just keep topping themselves
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