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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:39 AM Original message |
Why did Karen Hughes tell * he lost ? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. because they thought he lost |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Actually, I think that would show that Hughes wasn't in on it - not *ush. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. or the story was planted to let Karen seem like she didn't know. I think |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. I agree. I think the story was planted by Hughes (and/or Rove)... |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm guessing here, |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Zogby predicted 316 electors for Kerry in late afternoon |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Zogby makes lots of interesting predictions |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Of all the Pollsters, I think Zogby is the most accurate & trustworthy |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. That's because he incorporated early exit poll |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Just a hunch, but |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. Because he did (n/t) |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Have you heard * said, "That's what the numbers say NOW"? |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Obviously he didn't lose |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. A few possibilities |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. lol |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. so they could have a 'deniable plausibility" to back them up!! |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
9. The same reason Bob Shrum is alleged to have called Kerry "Mr. President." |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. When was that? |
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GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. at about the same time * was told he lost, election fraud works that way |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
77. Ow....fucking ow... fucking owwwww |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. That should be our motto: KAREN WAS RIGHT! |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. where's that "AP news audio feed"??? |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 04:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. This elaborates... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 04:23 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Was * stoic? |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. lol |
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Karenca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. HE WAS |
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onecitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. hehehe....... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 04:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. The timing of that really doesn't make sense |
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liberal43110 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. It Means Exit Polls are Accurate |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Then why have people bought into the discrediting of exit polls? |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. They keep repeating lies until they stick... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Exactly |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. They were told to. |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Yeah, exit polls are always more accurate than the final vote.. |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. Yeah, exit polls are always more accurate than the final vote.. |
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euler (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
72. This is false |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
23. Apparently she wasn't aware of the widespread touchscreen fraud? doc. |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. guess they dont tell everyone |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
24. But she likely did know what the Exit Polls would say; that Kerry won: |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. Yeah, exit polls are always more accurate than the final vote.. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. Once, twice, thrice |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. lol |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
75. Interesting... |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
27. I dont think this is correct |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. "Unbelievable" is right... n/t |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. Maybe she was out of the loop? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. She played "See no evil, hear no evil" so she wouldnt have to lie |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
31. Cause she wasnt planning to go to jail for Karl Rove, sillies. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Real question is why did she abandon her pal in his hour of need? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
32. Where is Karen Hughes? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Exactly. Conyers needs to get her under oath. She wont commit perjury |
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dandrhesse (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. don't bet on it |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. It shouldn't be to hard to find Karen Huge. n/t |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
82. Where is Hughes? Where is Condom Rice? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. Staff sat Bush down to tell him about his loss much earlier in the day. |
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KatieB (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
83. Source for this? article I saw has it much later - between 8:15 and 11:00 |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. "Bush took the news stoically" |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because he lost!!!! |
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mdb (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
41. I don't know the exact answer to this but while I watched CNN this night |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. David Brooks said Kerry was winner on PBS... |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. You're right, Robert Novak doesn't jump to conclusions... |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Novak |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
43. I think this is urban legend |
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stirringstill (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. Bush thought he lost. |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. "Magic" indeed n/t |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. Because she was reading the exit poll data info before the switch! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. because he lost |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. I was looking for this photo |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Where's photo? |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I cant find it |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I saw that picture too |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Thanks for trying... n/t |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
68. Atrios? |
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shiina (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. Because he did. |
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davidgmills (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
52. Cause his penis was the smallest in the room |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. Because he did |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
55. Bush admin loves to make up dramatic stories |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. She did it... |
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1democracy (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Was there a secondary plan that was activated to insure *'s win? |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Possibly |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Good point |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
66. Jimmy Carter said exit polls are the gold standard... |
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ClintCooper2003 (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
67. It wasn't midnight. I thought it was earlier. |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. According to AP... |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. OOOOOooo OOOOoo Pick Me! ::hand raised::: |
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wakemewhenitsover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Liar's Poker? |
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