This is not about Kerry. This is about a very fractured and weak party

[NVMojo]

that has some running in the direction of the old Reagan crap the DLC developed, you know, the centrists, kissing corporate ass and trying to appear "conservative", and the other side ....the lefts. It is about a very clever other side ...now controlled by neocons with a puppet master who has cleverly developed their "boy's" image to the "working class" all over the damn place. They have appealed to ever "I want my own way" faction out there. And their use of their whore media has certainly cemented their death grip on America.

So, unless this party gets is its act together and quits bringing out the long knives of division and instant gratification ...it's going to take a total bleeding of America such as the type that occurred by the end of the 60s for anything to change.

Are you ready for the fight? Not if you don't keep your eye on the real enemy and the real prize.

[NVMojo]

1. Democrats Split Again Over Party's Agenda

This story is either true at this time or planted at this time to keep the focus off of the election fraud.

If it is true, we have much to overcome among our own party before we can get this country back. If this is true, I want to know where Senator Harry Reid fits into this equation? If this is true, do you see how easy it would be for the Repukes to use our own party Senators to keep the rest in their seats on January 6th? Wake up, kids. This is not just about John Kerry or the Skull and Bones bullshit.

WASHINGTON — The truce appears to be expiring among Democrats in Washington.


In the immediate aftermath of Sen. John F. Kerry's loss to President Bush in November, Democrats notably avoided the postelection squabbling that's consumed the party after almost all recent presidential races — even those it won.


But as the new year begins, a series of high-profile articles in leading liberal journals is suddenly reopening old divisions.


On one front, a liberal operative at a top think tank has accused the Democratic Leadership Council, the principal organization of party centrists, of pushing the party toward a pro-corporate agenda "that sells out America's working class — the demographic that used to be the party's base."


In equally combative terms, a leading young centrist commentator published a manifesto in the New Republic magazine accusing the Democratic left of slighting the struggle against Islamic terrorism and undermining the party's image on security — an argument instantly embraced and promoted by the Democratic Leadership Council.


In the near-term, the Democratic desire to unify in opposition to almost all of Bush's agenda is likely to take the edge off these disagreements.


But these twin firefights, which have inspired volleys of responses, Web postings and e-mails, reflect enduring divisions over strategy, message and policy that could influence the race for the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee next month and are certain to loom over the contest for the presidential nomination in 2008.


"There is a big fight about the direction of the Democratic Party still going on, and these are big documents in that fight," says Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America's Future.

more ....

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&u=/latimests/20050102/ts_latimes/democratssplitagainoverpartysagenda&printer=1

[Warpy]

2. The majority in the party know the DLC has got to go

and that the party has to quit trying to be a kinder, gentler, blander GOP. The problem is that the DLC has a near stranglehold on the party, and there are few alternative voices left at the center of the power structure.

Change has got to come from the bottom, and this means you and me.

Anyone who is capable should get to a DFA meeting as soon as possible and start to work.

[BigBearJohn]

3. IF DEMOCRAT SENATORS DON'T STEP FORWARD -- LOOK OUT!!!!!

Everyone in my family and about 20 of my friends will
LEAVE the Democratic party... AND THEY BETTER KNOW IT!!!!!!!

[FreepFryer]

4. This is about the eleventeeth thread today trying to split the party

But I believe that we can continue to try to help the Dems from within, not abandon the party for a third party in the midst of our darkest hours.

We have so much to do. Don't believe the GOP frame. We're the majority by far, our values are clear, and the corruptness of the opposition is the measure of our potential to win.

Corporatism is a great evil - the greatest the U.S. faces, in my opinion. But the way to defeat it is not to commit ritual suicide in protest.

A monk who self-immolates in protest does so to educate others, not to inspire them to do the same.

AND KEEP CONTACTING YOUR SENATORS - IT'S WORKING!

[Helga Scow Stern]

5. And the stolen election may be becoming a "litmus test" for just who Dem

leaders really represent. I could not almost kiss Rove for rigging the election, but finally, we have a means to get our country back.

Not without a lot of hard work and time. But this is the beginning of reform. There are too many of us who want things to be better.

[StephanieMarie]

6. Depression is just anger without the enthusiasm!

Let's get enthusiastic about this. No surrender!

[madison2000]

7. Progressives are the heart and soul of the Democratic party

Follow us!

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