The Smoking Gun: What Was The First Sign of Trouble in Ohio?

[BayStateBoy]

Was it when Kerry did far lower than expected when the Cleveland results were released?

If so, that is where the investigation should begin.


Of course, none of this means anything if it is true that Kerry has dismissed all the lawyers we had on the ground in Ohio.

Is that in fact true?

[jmaier]

1. I think it wasn't so much Kerry underperforming

in Cuyoga (sp) county. It was record turnout there, I believe, it was more an issue of Rovians significantly overperforming in rural counties and some swing suburban counties.

[BayStateBoy]

5. No I Distinctly Heard that the Cleveland results were disappointing

and the commentators said how Kerry really should have been expected to get greater margins in the city and now how much harder it would be to overcome the rural results.

I suspect Cleveland is where the voting fraud began.

[LisaL]

2. Kerry won Cuahoga 2:1

It was all those rural counties that got Kerry beat.

[kerry2win]

9. I think it should of been even better

I work throughout cuyahoga, lorain, medina, and lake counties and one point I counted 34 - 3 bumper stickers in favor of Kerry to *** in cuyahoga. I do service work and I'm meeting alot of people all over and in Cuyahoga I was suprised it wasn't at least 75-25 for Kerry from the people I met. The people had a high energy to remove ** not too much support. Of course I could be wrong, but I was in about 20-25 homes a week in all areas.

[dqueue]

3. f**k that...

What happened in Florida??? Some channels were slow to give Florida to bushco. They discussed why. There are/were rumored to be, perhaps, 1.4 million+ absentee ballots out there, 17-20% of the electorate.

Having conceded, are the absentee and provisional ballots still counted?! I do not know, and it's killing me...

[izzie]

4. This

That people who are making less, air is dirty, no jobs to be had, seem to hate liberals so they will vote for the man who gives the rich guys even more. You figure it out. And do not say a thing about abortions as for the last 12 years the GOP have had the power to change that law any time they liked. That is just a whip they use.

[PieMaster]

6. Hammered

Ohio got creamed, if this map is accurate

[DireStrike]

7. First sign? GWB running for reelection.

[NavajoRug]

8. I'm going to be totally honest here . . .

For me, the first sign of trouble in Ohio was when New Jersey's results came in at 8:00. With Kerry's margin in New Jersey being so much less than Gore's margin in 2000, I was convinced Kerry was going to lose a lot more states than he did.

I'm actually surprised Ohio was that close.