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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:31 PM
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Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 04:46 PM by nadinbrzezinski
OK, OK we know they stole it.

We also know that this is next to impossible to prove

Now first let me say this, I no longer trust the voting system in the United States...

That said....

Here are the things that need to go to the top of our agenda:

1. Work as hard as we can to get rid of ANY and ALL electronic machines, we need pen and paper, old fashioned yes, can boxes be stuffed? Yes, but at least it would be easier to actually prove.

2. Change the message, STOP THE BLAME GAME RIGHT NOW, it does not matter whether we ran Dennis Kucinich or Attilla the Hun, the fix was in, and we all know it. But still we need to change the message, and RECRUIT the religious LEFT ... activism on that side is almost dead.

3. We need to get the House back in 2006... I know, I know gerrymandering and all that will make it close to impossible

4.- This will make us getting the vote out harder in years to come ... you know why, I know why ... none of us trusts the fucking system any longer ... now this also takes legitimacy away from this Presidency and the system

5.- Time for all of us to adopt the 11th commandment, though shall not talk evil of your fellow Democrats, Progresives et al.

6. Party discipline, yep I know we hate the single mindlessly of the Republicans, but they have party discipline. We need it

7. They want us to drop the towel and go home. We do that, THEY WIN ... are you willing to let them win? IF you do, please stop reading now.

8. Thank the party for doing the best they could ... remember they cannot challenge this ... NO RECORD.

9. Extend a hand to MODERATE Republicans, they are as outraged as we are. They won't say it, but they are. We may all hate Bushannan, but he is a good example of this kind of Republican, the pale conservative that hates what the Fundies have done, as well as the Neo Cons ... we may have to work with them to retake the country.

10. Stop wasting your time with the fundies and freepers, they will NOT get it ... at least not until they suffer the consequences of what they have unleashed.

11. We know that sooner or late terror will touch these shores again, We know that, when it happens AVOID saying "we deserved it," Look whether you believe that or not, that is the worst you can all say.

12. And this is to the freepers. You made your own bed on your so called morals ... what this is about to unleash in this country WILL TOUCH YOU TOO. I surely hope this wakes you up.... but don't expect me to cry for you ... or even care what happens to you. You did this to yourself culture warrior, don't expect a helping hand from me. I am done caring for yuo, and I know you'd rather see me dead.

(corrected spelling)
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RobertOnion Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:35 PM
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1. Sounds good.
Methinks the media must be prodded into speaking about the 6 million+ votes that are still uncounted around the country.
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misseypea Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:35 PM
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2. I agree wholeheartedly
We need a plan and #1 on your list is also number 1 on mine. My question is how to go about it? Where is the starting place to get those machines out?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:36 PM
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3. Good post, I'll add

We need to get our message across via OUR media, which we need to work on.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:39 PM
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4. Great post
I couldn't agree more with #5. The republicans have used divide and conquer on us (to steal a phrase from another post) and we are doing it to ourselves, too.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:40 PM
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5. Thanks for very necessary words.
I concur.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:40 PM
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6. I like your style!
Great post with great ideas.

DemEx
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:41 PM
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7. Lots of good stuff in there.
I think we need to keep electronic voting, however.
One possible remedy is to enlist a centralized voting database with records attached to your social security number, and access so we can see how our vote is rendered before and after a count.

This would help prevent box stuffing, vote changing, ineligible voters and multiple voting scams.
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