FTW : Mike Ruppert was right about Kerry.

[Senior citizen]

He predicted Kerry would be the candidate, but had misgivings about him, as Ruppert believed that Kerry helped cover up some of the worst misdeeds in the Iran-Contra scandal.

Well, shame on me--I got fooled again. I really thought a corporate party candidate could be a leader.

I'm sure Kerry won the popular vote, not that it counts for anything. In my precinct he got twice as many votes as the chimp.

We know there was BBV fraud in Ohio. Well, I guess better that he goes back on a promise to ensure that every vote is counted, than that he got elected and went back on every other promise because the DLC and DNC wanted him to.

Some people weren't fooled. My downtown San Diego precinct had 644 votes for Kerry, 310 for the chimp, 9 for David Cobb of the Green Party, and I think there were one or two votes for Nader. Want to blame Nader this time? At least HE didn't quit.

I'm glad it was an early concession. I was about to send money I can't afford to GELAC so they could fund recount efforts.

Sure there's a difference between the two major parties--one hates us, and the other just doesn't care about us.

Do the Dems think that any of the young, newly registered voters will ever vote for a major party again?

Once more the majority has spoken, and fascist America has said, "Shut up."

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Ahh! There's the rub!

They can tell us to shut up, but they cannot make us shut up easily or neatly.

It will be interesting to see how far they try to go, however.

[Zinfandel]

2. Your right on the money...Yes indeed there was massive fraud at all

electronic voting, no paper trail and we'll read about it for month's and years to come, too little too late though...

We knew it was going to be near impossible to get these hateful, lying fascist out of office...our problem was...they had us looking the other way Florida & Ohio and still installed BBV right where they needed them and we couldn't do shit about it.

They got the exact numbers they wanted Bush with 51% a majority!!!!

[Mist]

3. "There's a difference between the two major parties-- - one hates us

and the other just doesn't care about us." YES. We need to move away from the Democratic Party (aka "Republican Lite") and have an actual progressive party. I've been an unaffiliated voter for some years now. The Democratic Party lost my respect during the '80's when they played possum for the Reagan Republicans. I was on the Clinton bandwagon, and re-registered as a Democratic voter in the '90's, but let's face it, they're on the corporate tit too, and can't truly represent most Americans. The only way Dems. differ from Repubs. is by paying a bit of attention to social issues (abortion, separation of church and state, etc.) But as long as they accept corporate money, and as long as they put up with corporate media, there won't be much change. If you're a progressive liberal type, you have no representation.