Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Kerry should resign his Senate seat!!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:05 PM
Original message
Kerry should resign his Senate seat!!
If he's going to cave into AWOlbush and thugs, he should just take a long vacation and keep out of my sight..

Can I get my campaign contribution back?? I gave it to someone I thought was going to fight for me, not turn tail and run!!

All politics are local and democrats now need to get back to the basic's that are progressive and start the fight on the local level..

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
1. The votes aren't there, accept it, grow up
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. AMen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Amen!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. I respectfully disagree
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:11 PM by AverageJoe
By giving up, Kerry has very likely undercut any real chance at uncovering potential wide-spread e-voting fraud. I've been a big Kerry supporter and I truly believed he would have made a great president, but this...quitting...is a huge error. This betrays us. Should he resign? I don't know. But I can't see how he's going to do us a whole lot of good in the Senate any more.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope the Department of Justice and the FBI aggressively work to uncover and prosecute election fraud. I am not, however, holding my breath.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I respectfully agree
The Democrats may as well stay home. Repugs will make every decision in Congress and Bush will rubber stamp.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. if there was widespread fraud it will not be uncovered
with the sort of evidence that will get us anywhere but looking like conspiracy theorists.

too late. needed to preempt this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. No, it makes it easier
By "giving up", Kerry takes himself and any real/imagined sour grapes out of any investigation into e-voting fraud.

It's the end of a dream, but it's not the end of the world. 32 years ago today, it looked like Richard M. Nixon would be around forever.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CarinKaryn Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
24. Agreed. Kerry should have at least fought the fraud
He had an opportunituy to clean out the system and prevent another election from being stolen in the future. Instead he left the roaches under the rock.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. I wish you people would quit with this "grow up" bullshit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
3. Sure!
It's his fault 45MM people voted for Bush! Let's blame Kerry!

:-)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Killer Poodle Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
4. Seriously, have respect for the man that fought for you.
Blame those Democrats that didn't get out and vote in Ohio. Blame the lazy punks between the ages of 18-24.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sir_arms_50 Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. hu?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Killer Poodle Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. With all the bullshit the Swift Boat liars and the media threw at him
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:21 PM by Killer Poodle
He did a great job. Democrats have to do one thing to win: Show up and vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
22. No, he did a bad job with the Swift Boat Vets.
He should have responded early and smashed them into the ground. He should have obliterated any creditability they had within one week of their arrival on the political scheme.

But no, he hoped that the controversy would blow over, trying to play the nice guy. I hope these fucking demorats learn from their mistakes. You can't win against the republicans by playing nice, by trying to be the moral candidate. You have to throw twice as much mud at them as they do you, and with Dubya, there was plenty of mud to sling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Well when the draft comes from the imperialist's, they will have .....
no time to be lazy. I know lots of people who could of voted who didn't, I am guessing that will change
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. ummm, not all lazy punks between 18-24
I'm 20. My brother is 18. We worked our asses off putting up posters, registering kids to vote, having debates to convince other kids to vote for Kerry, and actually convincing some. Most of the "lazy punks" I know voted, and most of them voted for Kerry. I get tired of getting blamed for B*sh's reelection when I and all my friends worked our asses off.

If we want to blame someone, we should blame the stupid fundamentalists that would crucify Jesus if he came back. Blame the damned war hawk rednecks that don't have the balls to go fight and die themselves. Blame the Swift Boat Liars for Bush. Blame Karl Rove. Don't blame John Kerry, and don't blame me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Unfortunately, for some reason, the numbers don't support it
While you and your brother worked your asses off, you have 18 friends that just had another beer. Direct your anger at them. The voter turnout for young voters was no higher than it's ever been - about 10%. I guess Michael Moore was just preaching to the choir, because for all his work over the last 50+ days, young people simply didn't show up at the polls. It's really amazing, considering that chances are really good that we will have a draft again.

This could have been the election where your generation, that has so much to gain AND so much to lose, could have really made a difference. They didn't, but I will still grieve for them when their blood is shed in some foreign land, and it will be shed and there will be a lot more of it under Bush than there ever would have been under Kerry. Your generation had to potential to change the direction of this election for almost purely self-serving reasons, yet you didn't. Do us all a favor. Go to your classes, or to work, and ask your friends, all the other people you know who are your age, if they voted, and when they tell you no, ask them WHY THE HELL NOT?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InhaleToTheChief Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
11. Oh, for fuck's sake
Out donations didn't guarantee anything. Kerry is better in the Senate than a damn Republican. We're all disappointed, but the votes aren't there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
13. I think your anger is misdirected
Blame the 58 million dolts who voted for Bush, the Bush campaign and the corporate media.

When you see the mess this country has become in a few years you'll realize that John Kerry is not the bad guy here.

Geez.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:48 PM
Response to Original message
16. Absolutely not
Kerry is not "caving". He is accepting reality. It's obvious that widespread voting fraud occured. As Tucker Carlson said, "You don't stand in line for hours for more of the same". The fact that the exit polls were accurate where electronic voting had a paper trail, but were consistently low on Bush's results by 5% whenever there WASN'T a voting trail speaks volumes. Like the president of Diebold said. He delivered Ohio to Bush. He delivered Florida too.

There is still much work to be done. There is still a traitor, or traitors, who exposed CIA operative Valeria Plame. They must be found and prosecuted for treason. This may be the thing that take's Bush down.

We must fight with every bone in our body to keep the plans that had already been laid to invade or bomb Iran from coming to fruition. It will be the start of WWIII if we don't. States must secure their own high risk targets, because the feds DO NOT have their backs.

We must fight for a Palestinian state and a peace plan that is acceptable to the Israelis and the Palestinians. If that means NOT backing Sharon on every decision he makes, so be it. Judaism is a religion. Zionism is politics. There's a difference, and the killing in that part of the world must stop.

Even though we do not have a majority in either house of Congress, we do have some reasonable, true conservative Republicans who will side with us on some issues.

We must push for all electronic voting to have a paper trail. This obviously is not a decision that can be left to the states.

We must push for changes in the law regarding registration of new voters. Perhaps we should push for a law that all newly registered voters will initially register without a party designation. At primaries they will designate which primary they will be voting in. Designating which party you affiliate with on your voter registration application invites corruption at many different levels.

We must push for change at the issue level, whether it is alternative energy, abortion rights, civil rights, education, etc. etc. etc. We used the internet to campaign. Now we will use the internet to form a lobby force that will cut the big money interests off at the kneecaps. Yes, they have money, but WE HAVE VOTES. We will hold our legilators accountable to a degree that they couldn't have imagined. Democrat, Republican or Independent, will hold their feet to the fire on EVERY VOTE.

I could go on, and I will but now, while I'm not crying my eyes out, I'm going to have some lunch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
18. No way
I want him as my Senator!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
19. NO
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
21. you nutz
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mojavekid Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
23. NO.
We need every warm body in the Senate and House we can get. Time to begin the re-building of the Dem party. Though Kerry was far from my first choice, he showed himself to be right for the job.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
swhisper Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
25. Are you insane. He didn't cave- not enough votes left
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:09 PM
Response to Original message
26. I'm not happy about him conceding today....
Could he have waited a bit? Not sure.

But we need to keep him in the Senate, at least.

Politics are local--what are your plans?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 03:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC