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Hopeless Romantic Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:37 AM
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Labour is working towards a decade of Opposition
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:44 AM
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1. Such an unbiased source
Personally, I feel the extent that the Tory press and Blairite Labour types are going to to tell the world how shit Ed Miliband is shows that they're a little scared of him and the constant bashing, for no real reason, especially by people in Labour is really pissing me off.

The parliamentary Labour Party didn't elect him, the rest of the party did and if Labour think that they're going to regain votes by appointing another Tory-lite leader then they can fuck off.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:59 AM
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3. Good to know that the Tory press are so interested in the Labour Party's internal governance
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 06:07 AM by fedsron2us
as if it was any of their fucking business (and I am far from being a fan of Ed Balls). In is not as though the Tories are not rent asunder with their own divisions over Europe etc

BTW if you have any Stock Market investments this is a massive sell signal as it is clear that the economic outlook for the UK is dire and the government are clearly trying to weaken the opposition before the SHTF.
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adds76355 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 03:00 AM
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11. +1
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:06 AM
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2. "If there was an election today, he’d win a Labour majority of 34"
Funny decade of opposition there. When Nelson actually looks at the real world, he proved himself wrong. Labour have been ahead in the polls since December 2010. In other words, since just after Ed Miliband became leader.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:18 AM
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4. Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?
Fraser Nelson is a Tory, the editor of the vile pseudo-intellectual RW rag 'The Spectator' (Daily Mail for toffs, basically).

Anyone who can say 'Osborne’s cuts aren’t harsh or drastic: they’re mild and probably insufficient' should not be taken seriously - except perhaps from the point of view of knowing-one's-enemy - on a progressive board.

And the latest YouGov poll has Labour at 42%, Tories at 37%, LibDems at 9%. Hardly looks like a 'decade of opposition' for Labour at present ratings.

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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:25 AM
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5. I check out the Spectator when I'm in Smith's to buy my comics every Friday ...
... and the running theme of the editorials (all I can read without my eyes watering) seems to be that, given his precarious "majority", Cameron needs to sell as much of the family silver as he can to its readership as quickly as possible.

So I suspect that Nelson's piece is more wishful thinking than anyone else.

The Skin
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 07:41 AM
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6. Well definitely in terms of international dev policy
if they keep harping on 0.7% and nothing else.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:26 AM
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8. While international development is indeed an important issue in itself...
the number of voters who would vote mainly on that basis is tiny. In general, and certainly right now, the key issues are the economy and public services. Both of which are being horribly messed up, and threatened with worse, by the present government.
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-11 04:43 PM
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12. Their econ policy
has some merits. It's things like their development policy which are surprisingly hollow after 13 years of monopoly over it.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 10:25 AM
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7. Ah "Hopless Romantic"
Do you actually believe any of this horseshit for even so much as 1 second? Because if you do then you're an even bigger f**kwit then I originally thought.
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oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:01 PM
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9. There really is no need...
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 03:24 PM by oldironside
... to descend to that level.

I personally have posted links to a lot of articles and newspapers I didn't actually agree with (witness Blair in the Grauniad I posted today) but was trying to generate some sort of debate. A lot of people were having fun pissing and moaning about the poor standards and bias at the NS, without throwing personal abuse about.
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Hopeless Romantic Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:35 PM
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10. Thank you.
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