A great night for UKIP. I reckon it will be the largest British party in Brussels come 2014

[Hopeless Romantic]

Less than a week after the Observer revealed that 48 per cent of people might consider voting for a far-Right party as long as it wasn’t violent, racist, anti-democratic or in any sense whatsoever far-Right, UKIP has finished second in the Barnsley Central by-election with 12 per cent of the vote.

While the major focus this morning will be on the Liberal Democrats, who are surely doomed now and may as well just do a Masada-style mass suicide, what does this mean for Britain’s only economically literate anti-EU party?

Curiously enough, while UKIP traditionally wins most of its support from the Tories, one poll suggests that the Liberal Democrats had a higher proportion of defectors to UKIP than the Tories did. And in the 2009 election UKIP won more support from people in traditional Labour-voting families than from Tories.

UKIP’s potential popularity can be explained by the fact that on two of policies people care most about – immigration and crime – it easily has the most popular stance of any mainstream party.

Even among Liberal Democrat voters, more people agree than disagree that “all further immigration to the UK should be halted”, which puts them further to the Right than me (only Green Party supporters want more immigration – presumably as long as no one comes by plane). Whatever anyone claims, there is no “progressive majority” in Britain whatsoever.

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100078555/a-great-night-for-ukip-i-reckon-it-will-be-the-largest-british-party-in-brussels-come-2014/

[T_i_B]

1. "economically literate"? UKIP????

No suprise to see that Ed West is talking bollocks as per usual.

As to his claim that "there is no “progressive majority” in Britain whatsoever" I notice that he didn't mention the party who actually won the election in question very comfortably indeed in the article.

[LeftishBrit]

2. How did I know this had to be Ed West?!

'No progressive majority'. There was certainly a progressive majority in this by-election (61% of the vote went to Labour; absolutely whopping majority for them).

Only in bizarro land could your preferred party getting 12% against 61% for the winning party be considered as some sort of triumph.

And right at the moment, I'd say the most important issues for most people are not immigration and crime, but the economy, especially unemployment, and public services, especially the NHS. And if UKIP are 'economically literate', I'm Prince William.

[T_i_B]

3. One thing Ed West fails to mention...

...is that UKIP have a scorched earth policy on public spending cuts. They make George Osborne seem moderate in comparison.

And the policies he mentions as being popular ones for UKIP (crime and immigration) require public spending . You can't have hardline policies on law & order or immigration if the police and border control are going to be heavily cut.

"economically literate" my arse. :eyes:

[LeftishBrit]

5. Exactly

Usually when people speak of 'crime and immigration' in a single phrase, it's more likely to be code for racism than a thought-out policy for e.g. increasing the number of police.

'Shrinking the state' isn't the most likely way to reduce crime in any case.

[non sociopath skin]

4. A strange spin indeed.

It doesn't seem that the Baggy Trousered Misanthropists cornered much more than the Tory protest vote.

The Skin

[LeftishBrit]

6. And here we go!

This is a link to another recent article by Ed West about 'far right parties'.

I am not linking because I think that Eddie's rantings deserve that much consideration, but because the comments section shows just what sort of audience he and the Torygraph are playing to.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100077919/half-the-country-would-vote-for-a-far-right-party-whatever-that-means/

Blacksticks, Cotewood, Lickyalips, Oldman, Therealpm... the list of nasty commentators goes on and on.

Just a few tasters:



'Our people have been conditioned by a combination of wartime propaganda, historical revisionism and Zionist media-fed inversions of reality, designed to cause them to think of themselves as party to great evil should they ever react to their natural survival instincts in the face of their impending extinction by "diversity" and "multiculturalism", as preached and implemented by successive governments since 1945...



Zionism is not Judaism: and therein lies the most critical, and hidden
distinction between the majority of Jews in the world, and those who hide behind Judaism and the Jewish diaspora, in order to perpetuate and
capitalise on the constant stream of media-fed guilt designed to suppress the natural instincts of the white race, while all the time eating away at their very existence in the process of their planned genocide by an unholy alliance, whose plans for themselves amount to their ascension over the rest of mankind as the "Master Race" presiding over a world of slaves who will serve only to produce the wealth and worship required by the Gods of The New World Order.


... cleverly, it is has been manipulated by groups such as the UAF,
itself an extreme anti-Semitic, anti-Israeli, but essentially anti-white, anti-British gang of maniacal communist thugs, subscribed to, directed and funded by the fascist, despotic tri-party, genocidal dictatorship known asthe LibLabCon-Trick for whom the British public has been conned into voting for at every election since its modern manifestation following the close of WWII.'

(With links to the BNP site, Londonpatriot, etc.)

and from another poster:


'You do realise that the model of racial supremacism in National Socialism - the reborn Aryan hero, the Thousand Year Reich, the slave status of Jews and Slavs - was taken straight from Judaism, don't you? You have read Hannah Arendt on the subject?....


You look at this little list of goodies, and you explain to me what the common factor in all of them is:

Classical Marxism, revolutionary internationalism, Critical Theory, Postmodernism, Freudianism, second-wave Feminism, second-wave Libertarianism, Gay Rights/LBGT Rights, American Civil Rights, Human Rights, White Privilege/White Abolitionism, agitation for open borders and mass immigration, Neoconservatism, academic race-denial, encouragement for white race-mixing, exploitation of the Holocaust narrative, Israel Lobby, promulgation of hate speech law, sexual politics & internet pornography.

Then, when you've done that, tell me how the totality of them, secular as they are, meshes so seamlessly with Tikkun Olam.'


Dave, my dear, dear Prime Minister - I think you said something a little while ago about opposing extremism, and how people should accept liberal British values? Dave - when you will you speak out about the illiberal racists (indeed I could say worse) who regularly comment on the Torygraph, and those writers who feed them?