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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 04:18 PM
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Debate heats up over Morgentaler honorary degree from Western Ontario
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/story.html?listing_id=18645

Western’s Board of Governors Chair Don McDougall has written an open letter expressing his disappointment on the decision of a Senate committee to award Dr. Henry Morgentaler an honorary degree at Spring Convocation.

McDougall says this decision is “completely out of step with the culture and positioning of our university” and that Senate should review the Morgentaler decision.

But University President Paul Davenport has responded to some of the concerns raised by McDougall in a letter of his own, providing some background on this issue and the Honorary Degrees Committee’s decision.


I'm sending a donation to UWO because this has caused the university to lose a $2 million donation
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 05:07 PM
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I posted about this here a while back, and in the Choice forum with the details:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=217x1556

(Note that I corrected the email address for McDougall in the last post there.) I left London many years ago so as not to have to go to Western (but did take one course from UWO toward my degree elsewhere).

It's worth noting that Doris Anderson is getting a much-deserved honorary degree at the same time.

And, good grief, Maudie Barlow.

Anderson is a leading feminist figure in Canada. Editor of Chatelaine from 1957 to 1977, she commissioned articles on hard-hitting topics such as divorce, abortion and battered children.

She served as chair of the Canadian Advisory Council on the Status of Women, and has had a career as an author, activist and advocate. She is a companion of the Order of Canada and has recently been named for lifetime achievement by the Canadian Journalism Foundation.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to object to the award to Morgentaler and not the one to Anderson -- or even to Marc Lalonde, for that matter. He was tight with Pierre Trudeau, and wasn't Pierre responsible for the whole moral decline thing?

Here's McDougall's letter:
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/opinion.html?listing_id=18652

... In my opinion our University community, particularly the Senate, should deliberate on three important questions.

First, why was Morgentaler, who has no previous association with Western, been chosen to receive our highest honor? Secondly, why were the protocols for making such appointments breached in this case? Thirdly, have we made the right choices to minimize disruption to our graduates and all other participants on this Convocation Day?

The central issue is why has Morgentaler been chosen for this honor? The spin is that he is being recognized as a humanist, and a secular humanist he may well be. In this country, however, he is best known as an abortionist who in earlier times advocated abortion to improve the wellbeing of expectant mothers.

For the past several years, he has advocated abortion as a means of reducing poverty and criminality and removing unwanted children from our midst. This form of eugenics should offend most people in our academic community. As our President has made clear the award goes to the person not the cause. If this is the case it is difficult to understand that this person’s full resume was understood by the Committee when they made their decision.

Some people maintain that this is an example of courage and/or academic freedom. The fallout we have already experienced causes me to say it may be courageous but it may also be ill-advised in the extreme. These same people who may celebrate this decision as academic freedom fail to appreciate the permanent scar it will inflict on our well-earned reputation for good judgment.
And Marc Lalonde is connected with Western ... how?

Here are the clues; those familiar with these matters will recognize them.

People who use phrases like "advocated abortion" in reference to someone who advocates legal access to safe abortion, like "expectant mothers" to refer to women seeking abortions, and like "abortionist" to refer to a physician who provides legal and safe abortions, are not nice people. They are pretty certainly card-carrying members of the anti-choice brigade. Decent people do not misrepresent what others do and say, or objectify and stereotype women, or objectify and demonize the physicians who care for them, in these ways.

In closing I wish to assure you that your Board of Governors will monitor the security situation around Convocation Day very closely and will, if necessary, overrule the Administration if we feel the security risk to our people or property is significant.
And honest people don't use scare tactics to get their own way.

More opinions here:
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/opinions.html

Ah, I like this one:
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/opinion.html?listing_id=18660

Donald McDougall has used his position as Chair of the University of Western Ontario Board of Governors to threaten measures to nullify the granting of an honorary degree to Dr. Henry Morgentaler.

As President of the University of Western Ontario Faculty Association, I deplore the many disturbing statements and attitudes in McDougall’s so-called open letter. None are more shocking than those that display a fundamental lack of understanding of those things that lie at the very heart of all good universities, the very things he has a duty to uphold and protect: responsible academic freedom, and respect for due and fair academic process.

To use his position as Chair of the University of Western Ontario Board of Governors to thwart academic decisions is utterly wrong and a dreadful misuse of that position. He should retract or resign.
And the letter from UWO President Davenport:
http://communications.uwo.ca/western_news/opinion.html?listing_id=18650

... Under The University of Western Ontario Act, honorary degrees are awarded by the Senate, without reference to the Board. Since 1971, the Senate has delegated that authority to one of its Committees, the Honorary Degrees Committee, whose decisions are announced without debate in Senate.

Other universities have other procedures, but these are ours. Morgentaler is being honoured for his committed campaign in support of a Woman’s Right to Choose. That right was confirmed by a Supreme Court of Canada decision in 1988, in a case involving Morgentaler which came 15 years after the Roe v. Wade decision of the US Supreme Court.
The university senate is the body with authority over academic decisions. The board of governors has absolutely no role to play in those decisions, and no business meddling in them, especially in public. Maybe McDougall would like the UWO med school to stop providing its students with abortion-related instruction ... or the law school to stop providing students with instruction in how to defend bad people accused of crimes ... because he or donors might disapprove ... and where would it end?

That said, I'm not sending Western any money. It has quite a lot already. Maybe I'll make a donation to a suitable organization in McDougall's name ;) (as people did to international Planned Parenthood in George W. Bush's name when he imposed the global gag order as his first act in office).

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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 05:36 PM
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2. Additionally
I might add when one gets a phone call for donations just tell them no. When they ask why, let them know.
I have done it with another institution and there must have been others with the same idea, because that person is not in the limelight anymore promoting his ideas with the institution's name being used with him as an expert there.

And Maude Barlow. Guess there is still hope.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 05:47 PM
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3. eh?!
You've confused me all to hell!

I might add when one gets a phone call for donations just tell them no.

You mean ... if they rescind the decision to award the honorary degree to Dr. Morgentaler, right?

So far, as I understand it, it's going ahead.

I have done it with another institution and there must have been others with the same idea, because that person is not in the limelight anymore promoting his ideas with the institution's name being used with him as an expert there.

Not Philippe Rushton, I guess. ;) That one's still at Western.

And Maude Barlow. Guess there is still hope.

Hmm. If she was going to desert the NDP and become a Liberal, the least she could have done was actually get the nomination so that Ottawa Centre, and Canada, would have been spared the slimy Mac Harb for the next decade (and what, another 20 years in the Senate?).

No, Maude isn't one of my favourite people ... but I suppose she's a necessary evil.

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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:04 PM
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4. Whoa
Tell them that one is not going to donate as long as this assh* is kept in his position. When the senate makes its decision it is the senats' decision and if this nut wants to change it he should be out.

It wasn't an institution in the western part of the Provence.

And Maude. Well without getting into intense political discussions I think that one could find a lot poorer excuses to call oneself a Canadian. I didn't realize that she was an NDPer nor that she was moving to the Liberals. But as long as she is not with the Conservatives I will still consider her as representing valid points of view.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:30 AM
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5. ah, that's even better!

Yes, I hadn't thought that far. ;) (And I knew it wasn't what it would have sounded like if coming from another source, of course.) But indeed, that's what the opinion piece I quoted said -- retract *and* resign, I think.

Maudie moved to the Liberals in 1984, I believe it was. Careerism, I believe it was. When she didn't get the nomination in 1988 (I've joined your party, now nominate me in a key riding ...), she huffed off to form her own party. Was it Mel Hurtig and her doing the Council of Cdns thing in the first instance? Then he huffed off ...

One of my bitches with them is that for years they would not stop sending me their annoying junk mail, no matter how many times I told them to stop. And that's actually agin the law.

Philippe Rushton -- I'd just happened to run across the Joel Johanssen boob yammering about the Morgentaler honour, but noting how the charming Philippe was still at Western ...

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