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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:35 PM
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Could we redistrict North America


I think this looks doable. Could we please try this?
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:36 PM
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1. My photo!
Cool, i found that too!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:37 PM
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2. Best idea I've seen all week
Let's start working on it.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:37 PM
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3. would we be able to visit Jesusland many years from now and observe
the Jesusland natives?
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:37 PM
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4. I saw that on cryptome.org, it's looking good, i'll go for it.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:47 PM
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5. I love this map
Would that it was doable.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:00 PM
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6. My thoughts exactly, and the benefit is we will have an abundant
supply of cheap labor to shovel the snow and perform other menial duties.

Without our tax dollars and education values, the folks in Jesusland will be free to teach their kids nothing but the Bible. Their abilty to generate an internal economy will fail utterly, and they will be looking for handouts from Mexico. That of course assumes they are at least smart enough to figure out how to feed themselves while they are waiting for the Rapture.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:50 PM
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20. Wonderful ideas...........
I saw a thing on the History Channel about religion. The Rapture is never mentioned in the Bible, but was invented in the 19th century by a man named Darby.:eyes:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:18 PM
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7. oh good - and a Q
I'd posted a link to the pic in another thread, but because the only link I had was to someone's personal site I didn't want to use his/her bandwidth by posting the pic itself. Ta!

My Q: has anyone ever done a map of red/blue states by population?

You know, like how the Peters projection of the globe (on the left) represents actual land mass size better than the Mercator projection (on the right):



(Greenland just isn't really bigger than Africa ... although I dunno, Canada looks a bit puny there.)

Is there a "projection" of the US that shows states by population rather than by surface area -- by human population rather than by groundhog population? ;) Or, say, for purposes of the election, by number of votes cast?



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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:20 AM
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13. An A to your Q
This is not a Peters projection but it is a county-by-county red/blue breakdown. And you might find the articles of interest as well. Like THE URBAN ARCHIPELAGO.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:50 AM
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8. How about adoption?
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)



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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:24 AM
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9. on one condition

Oh, that's right -- I was going to say you have to bring Florida, because surely we should get something out of the deal besides more maple syrup and more fall colours, and I'm sure we could persuade the locals to vacate -- but of course, we already get California.

Mind you, California's a little remote for those of us who don't already live in our own lotusland on the west coast. I know: how about you bring those sunny island dependancies off the eastern side of NA with you? They're used to being outposts of empire already, after all.

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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:51 AM
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10. How about
How about we just get Hawaii and Alaska. That way we can protect ANWAR and don't have to give the Jesusland Military the right to pass through on it's way somewhere?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:02 AM
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11. Alaska, that's good

Hawaii, that's just more goodies for the Vancouverites. I want Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands and whatever else is kicking around down there.

I'm not ruling out Florida yet, though.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:37 PM
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12. I'm sure we could work something out. And I'm all for
saving Alaska! Along with us people of course. Get me outta here! ;)
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:32 AM
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14. Pueto Rico
Ok...but if we get P.R. we have to give them an open and fair vote on independence - we don't want another province having a succession referendum every 10 years.:eyes:
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:12 AM
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15. Nooooooo!
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 12:13 AM by Jackie97
That leaves me in Jesus land! I swear to God if it officially become Jesus land, all us American progressives and American anti-Bushers (there is a difference) are going up there! LOL!

There would be millions of us "Jesus landers" going up there too. LOL. What the electoral college doesn't show is that millions of people all throughout the red states voted for Kerry. Bush beat Kerry by about three million votes. That seems like a lot, but not when you take it out of over a hundred million voters. We had over fifty five million people vote for Kerry. Those people are all throughout the United States; not just the blue ones. In fact, I bet there were a lot of Republican voters in the blue states (it's just that Kerry won those states). That leaves millions of people voting for Kerry and not having their vote counted because they were in a "red" state.
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HamiltonHabs32 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:49 PM
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16. re
Personally I would love the United States of Canada to become reality, with our Culture and your money we would be unstoppable, the world would instantly improve...cept for jesusland of course. haha

I hear they are putting warnings on textbooks that talk about the theory of evolution down there. THAT IS FARKIN SCARY
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 07:36 PM
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17. their money
Ha. Noticed what's happening to that? More likely they'll be wanting us so they can get their hands on our money!

You know those old jokes:

In Heaven:
the cooks are French,
the police are English,
the mechanics are German,
the lovers are Italian
and the bankers are Swiss.

In Hell:
the cooks are English,
the police are German,
the mechanics are French,
the lovers are Swiss
and the bankers are Italian.

For products in heaven, you have the Italians
design them, the French engineer them, the
Japanese build them, and the Americans market them.
In hell, the Americans design them, the Japanese
engineer them, the Italians manufacture them, and
the French market them.


In the United States of Canada, given how things are headed down there, we'd better be having the culture is Canadian, the beer is Canadian, the program evaluators are Canadian (little program evaluation joke for lunabush/Wickerman in case he drops in), the voting system is Canadian *and* the money is Canadian ... and the gun laws are Canadian ... or we're going to be in big trouble. Just like they're fixing to be, with their buck being for the high jump as it is being set up to be.

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 12:14 PM
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19. little program evaluation joke
thre are no other kinds of PE jokes - we evaluators are not known for our sense of humor!
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:52 AM
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18. Our money and our people would change your culture.
It's a fact. The US thinks their culture is all about English speaking white Protestants. We're not. We have a big Hispanic culture coming in. We've got lots of Asians. We've got lots of Catholics (and many of them are more enlightened than the Protestants down here). I think the typical American is so scared of immigrants because they know that they will change our culture.

Likewise, our money would corrupt Canadians who never had a chance to be corrupted before. Our people would encourage some Canadians to be more self-centered and paranoid.

Perhaps the Canadians could equally counter that attitude. Maybe not. The "other America" has been trying to counter that attitude without enough success. I guess the "other America" would pretty much be most who aren't Anglo Saxon anti-progressive Protestants.

I guess I just have this attitude that whoever becomes the next superpower becomes the next asshole. I do admit that Canadian culture could handle that power much better than the United States can. I think that Germany would handle those powers well (now that they've learned how evil they can get, they don't want to do it again). I'm a little unsure about some of these other European countries. I'm unsure about China. I'm not afraid of one of them becoming the next superpower. They probably wouldn't do much more harm (if any more harm at all). Some think China would do a lot of harm, but I'm unsure of that now that they've calmed down quite a bit. I got word from a man in Hong Kong a few years ago that China didn't try to dictate them they way they do the other areas. I imagine they wouldn't try to dictate us either (except for through money in the same way that the US does when they give money to dictators). I just wish there wasn't any such thing as a superpower.

As for the textbooks, here's what's even scarier. What's scarier is that fundamentalists don't know enough about Biology to realize that the whole book is about evolution, and not just one section. Evolution's coming in, whether the fundies like it or not.
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