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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:40 PM
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NDP Admits Giving Stephen Harper a Pass
Speaking at a press conference today retiring MP and former NDP leader Ed Broadbent commented that the NDP does not care if Stephen Harper’s Conservatives come to power.

“I think sitting across from a Conservative minority or majority or Liberal majority, minority for the NDP is the same thing.”

Why then has the NDP spent this election fighting Prime Minister Martin and Liberals?

Of the 116 NDP attack press releases during this campaign to date, almost 90 per cent have attacked the Liberals. There have been:

* 105 against the Liberals;

* 9 against the Conservatives; and

* 2 against the Bloc.

New Democrat voters have to ask themselves: who is standing up for progressive values?

http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?id=11449

Exactly.

Layton and Harper sound like they work out of the same war room. Some form of understanding between them or what?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:06 PM
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1. source liberal.ca?
:nopity: :hi:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:31 PM
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3. awww
You beat me to it, and your graphics are better than mine would have been.

Well ... I'll take a shot.



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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:03 AM
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6. So what? Facts are facts.....if they were wrong do you think
the "liberal" media wouldn't be all over it?

It's a political site, but it's not worldnetdaily. They are presenting numbers that they know will be seized upon if they're wrong.

Anything to say about the embarassing stats on NDP attacks?

Thought not.

NDP deserves a :kick: for abandoning the fight against the Conservatives.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:26 AM
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11. Do you want the Conservatives to win?
I certainly don't. And I've lost a lot of respect for the NDP with some of their actions.

The Liberal party is certainly not perfect but think what the Conservatives would do. :(
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:28 AM
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12. That's all the Liberals have
and it's not enough anymore.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:46 AM
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13. What do you mean that's all the Liberals have?
:shrug:

We have prosperity in Canada, I don't see wide-spread misery. Most people I've talked to are happy with the way things are going in Canada.

We actually need a centre-left party in Canada.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:54 AM
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14. I'm referring to the campaign
The Liberals haven't fought on their record, because Martin doesn't want to remind voters that he was finance minister for a decade. He wants to pretend he's a fresh face. The message has been all fear-mongering. By my count it's the third election in a row they've tried it. Not that the Conservatives aren't scary, but the strategy was due to blow up in their faces.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:00 PM
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15. What absolute BS! Martin contantly reminds people of his record
of the balanced budgets and paid down debt for the last decade and what he accomplished as PM.

What is it with NDP'ers in this election and the contant lying?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:12 PM
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2. He hasn't learned the Bush-Gore lesson
I understand as a politician working for a given political party, he pretty well has to take this stance. Liberals or Conservative, majority or minority, may be all the same for the NDP in Parliament, but for the rest of us it could make an enormous difference. I fear Harper will drag us far more deeply down the road of U.S. foreign military adventures, the way the Australians have been dragged along.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:32 PM
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4. I give up

Layton and Harper sound like they work out of the same war room. Some form of understanding between them or what?

What?

Eh?

What what?

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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:49 PM
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5. Mommy! Jack Layton said mean things about me!
:cry:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:05 AM
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7. Mommy, Jack Layton has nothing to say about Conservatives..
Abandonment of progressive ideology. He doesn't care that Conservatives form a government, as long as he gets 5 more seats. Pathetic.

He could have attacked Conservatives equally as much as Libs and would have come off with more credibility.

As it is the critisism Martin makes of him rings very true.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 09:11 AM
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9. Why can't Martin defend himself?
If Layton is a little WEASEL, as you Martin apologists keep calling him, then surely the mightly leader Paul Martin should have no problems deflecting his criticism. Martin is a true progressive option, right?

But you know, you have a point. Layton would have run a much smarter campaign and targeted hyper-conservative gun nuts in Red Deer, Alberta. Instead Layton has this silly strategy of trying to discourage people from bailing on his party in close NDP-Con races and NDP-Liberal races at the last minute, like happened in the last election. How arrogant of him. He should call for the disbanding of the NDP and order all of his supporters to unconditionally back the Liberals.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:12 AM
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10. Layton did the same thing as Martin re asking people to abandon their
(Liberal) party and vote for him. Martin asked the NDPers to vote Liberal....I would say it's a wash....
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:27 AM
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8. You know what I think would be good for progressives...
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 06:28 AM by V. Kid
...voting for a guy who has no principles. And once the average Canadian mostly non-progressives get pissed at him, and vote Conservative in a massive majority goverment, we get to deal with it for five years. Yeah, that would be awesome.I mean jeesh, who cares about princples eh? I mean sure, they're great every now and then, but once you have to consider them once every twenty years, it's a real hassle. :sarcasm:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:02 PM
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16. Back up your accusation
of no principles?

Or is it just ANOTHER Jack Layton style smear?
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