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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:36 PM
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Doyle's approval rating only at 43%
43% approve, 48% disapprove

http://www.surveyusa.com/50StateGovTrackingJuly2005.htm

I thought his popularity was up around 60%.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:37 PM
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1. maybe the way he dised Kerry, and his frickn Viagra commercials
did him in

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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:07 AM
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2. got a link?
I'd like to see that.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:05 PM
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25. When did he dis Kerry
?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:22 AM
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3. I'm not too worried
at the moment

The big fight over the budget hasn't started yet and Doyle can be on the "popular" side of this fight if he handles it right.....

I'll just take a deep breath. Put my head down and go to work.

(full disclosure: Doyle isn't my favorite Democrat but I'll be damned if I'm going to do anything to give the Repubss even the SLIGHTEST GLIMMER OF HOPE that they can win the Governorship back. If you don't like Doyle, fine and dandy, but think how "wonderful" :sarcasm: a Mark Green Governorship would be.)
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theshadow Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:33 PM
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8. I'll top that. How about Gov. Gard? [end]

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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:04 PM
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10. He's running for Congress, not governor
He's already filed for Congress with the Elections Board.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:28 AM
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4. Over the past three months, his numbers have swung wildly
41/49 in May
46/46 in June
43/48 in July

As with everything else in Wisconsin, if you don't like it, wait a few minutes and it will change.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:05 AM
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5. Agree
the most important poll will be election day 2006.....that's the only one we have to win!
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:23 PM
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6. We can try and slice this as good news
or at least not horrible, but it is not good numbers and his positive never seems to break 50%.

He did not win with 50% in 02 and I don't think Tommy's brother will be there to siphon off votes from Green (who I think will win the GOP primary) in 06.

The long term prognosis is not all that positive, it will be a real tough race in 06.

Just my thoughts.

In 04 we had a real tight race for Wirch who barley got re-elected and he had won the seat easily before.

The same dynamics could be shaping up state wide.

:kick:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:39 PM
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7. I don't think it's good news
but it is only a snapshot of the moment, not necessarily of what is to come........essentially Doyle controls his own destiny. How he handles this budget mess will be very telling.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:55 PM
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17. Could not agree with you more.
it will make or break him IMHO.:hi: :dem:
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:02 PM
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9. Ed took lots of votes away from Doyle also
Ed was very popular with UW students because of the marijuana legalization thing. Those votes aren't going to go to Green or Walker, they'll either go to Doyle, a Green Party candidate, or stay home.
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russwallac Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:17 PM
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13. Unfortunately...
it looks like the Greens will run a candidate for Governor. They're upset about a bunch of Doyle's votes, and really pissed off about the minimum wage preemption bill that Doyle signed.

The problem is, I agree with their feelings, if not their tactics, as do most of the informed Dems I know. Helps explain why Doyle's numbers are so low. I'm going to support Doyle, but I'll be holding my nose when I cast my vote.

Could be a tough race with Doyle catching it from both the right and the left.
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Broca Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:49 PM
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14. Yes.
With Doyle having his picture taken at coal-fired plant ground breakings, supporting the Arrowhead-Weston transmission line, supporting the so-called Jobs Creation Act, using conservation funds to plug budget holes, etc. he will have a tough time getting environmental endorsements. He promised campaign finance reform, restoring the public intervenor's office, and putting the appointment of the DNR secretary back in the Natural Resources Board's hands. So far not a weak attempt on any of this.

I spent a couple of weeks during his campaign doing door-to-door lit drops and wrote a lot of LTTE supporting him. I wont be doing that again. It will be the first time in many years that I wont be voting a straight democratic ticket unless Doyle performs some environmental miracle.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:28 AM
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15. UW students are pissed at him too.
We thought that getting rid of McCallum would end the UW system gutting, boy were we wrong. Dead wrong.
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:49 AM
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16. It's really the Republicans in Joint Finance though
Doyle can't put back in what the Republicans in the Legislature take out. If we can take back the State Senate (which is very doable) all of a sudden you'd begin to see some very different budgets, not to mention other bad Republican bills dying in the Senate.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 04:06 PM
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20. Tell that to them.
We were hoping Doyle would stand up to the repukes on the UW cuts, vetoing the budget until they made one that restored our funding.
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:18 PM
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21. I'm an undergrad at UW-Madison too
and all I'm saying is that a Democratic Senate with Gov. Doyle would be a lot different than the current Republican majority. On the other hand a Gov. Walker with an unchecked Republican majority is going to make the current situation look good by comparison.

Yes, I am disappointed with Doyle too but unless Spencer Black jumps into the primary, the choice for governor will be either Doyle or Green/Walker. And Green/Walker is going to be a lot worse than Doyle.

People sometimes say, "Things were better when Tommy was governor." But again, it comes down to the Legislature. Back when Tommy was governor we had a Democratic legislature instead of a Republican one, and it held him in check somewhat.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:57 PM
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18. Yeah but the UW system is making
it easy for the GOP to make trouble for them with some of what has been reported lately.:shrug:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:45 PM
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23. You're referring to the dministrator put on paid leave,
The Ward Churchill visit, and Stout wanting to get rid of the ROTC, right? UWSP had a similar proposal before Student Government that would have also barred military recruiters as well as the ROTC, however it was narrowly defeated. I was surprised that none of the reich wing radio gasbags in the state didn't pick it up at the time.


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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:02 AM
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24. And the gentelman who was fired then rehired at a big
pay check.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:00 PM
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11. Low popularity for Doyle....
...doesn't translate to high popularity for Green or Walker.

I told an associate of mine back home that if Mark Green became governor of Wisconsin, I wasn't going to go back after I get out of the Air Force. I'll either stay in the St. Louis area or move somewhere else entirely. I've had my eye on Washington state for a while. In fact, let me check out their board....
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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:58 AM
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12. Keep in mind DMA
:puke:

That will most likely be on the November 2006 ballot. This will mobilize the fundies. This will be their trump card. I have a bad feeling about this.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:59 PM
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19. Did the GOP get that on the 06 ballot???
I had not heard that had made the ballot yet. It will energize the GOP base and cause the Democrats and Doyle trouble if it is on the general election ballot.
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:23 PM
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22. The GOP can put it on whenever they want
It has passed the legislature twice and they can put in on the ballot during either the spring or fall election in 2006.

Wisconsin used to be the kind of state where we could make stuff like this backfire on the Republicans. Maybe it still can be. The spin we need to put on this is not so much the gay rights issue, although that is important too, but that, "The Constitution should only be used to give people rights, not take them away." Then it's not just about allowing same-sex marriages, which many people don't identify with- it's a statement of general principle.
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