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PADEMJES12 Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:18 PM
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PA Democratic Party endorses Arlen Specter at State Committee
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:53 PM by PADEMJES12
This weekend, the PA Democratic Party endorsed Senator Arlen Specter
to carry the torch in November against familiar foe Pat Toomey
as Senator Specter won a decisive vote earning 227 votes to Rep. Joe
Sestak's 72.

http://www.pa2010.com/2010/02/specter-endorsed-by-state-democratic-party/

For a candidate to get an endorsement, he or she had to get 66% of the vote
from state committee members. Specter captured 75 percent
of the vote as the crowd cheered "ARLEN... ARLEN" as Sen. Specter came to
the podium to speak following the endorsement vote.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 09:59 AM
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1. The only question for me now is whether I change my registration from Dem to Ind
now or wait and cast a meaningless vote in the primary against the puke Spectre.

He won't get my vote in the general, that's for sure.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 11:49 AM
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2. I'm sure that Pat Toomey will appreiciate that
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 01:36 PM
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3. Toomey - Spectre - Casey. Not a spit's worth of difference. And as long as we continue to elect
and re-elect DINOs like Spectre and Casey, not a damn thing will change.

This action by the state committee only states that all too clearly.

I am willing to endure Toomey for a term if it drives the puke-lites out of office.

Are you willing to forever have scum like the two current DINOs sitting in the Senate, keeping the rethug-(not-so)lite agenda rolling along?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 01:47 PM
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4. Casey votes with Senate Democrats over 94 % of the time
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/111/senate/party-voters/

You would classify someone who votes with Senate Democrats over 94 % of the time as "scum?"
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 01:56 PM
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5. With the "record" the Senate Dems have compiled, I wouldn't call that a badge of honor.
They have done NOTHING of a politically brave nature, unless you count dumping trillions on Wall Street and the banksters.

I have answered my question - I am willing to "sacrifice" these two non-Dems in the hope of actually electing a real Democrat sometime in the future.

Are you satisfied with never having real Dems in office? That is what you get when you choose the lesser of two evils.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 02:24 PM
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6. I consider someone who votes with Senate Democrats over 94% of the time to be a 'Real' Democrat and
much better than having a Republican in the seat, as it is unlikely to find any Republicans who will vote with the Democrats more than half of the time.

What makes you think that a Democrat to your liking will be nominated in six years rather than another Specter or Casey?
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 03:10 PM
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7. My point is that a liberal will NEVER be elected if we continue to send the same DINOs
back to DC.

Agreeing with escalating the war, bailing out the banksters, dumping trillions on Wall Street, continuing the Bushista war crime policies, putting up center-reich judges and justices, etc. is not doing good in my opinion, even though the Dems (almost) all went along with those moves.

And what they have done to sabotage real health care reform goes to the top of the list.

So, from where I sit - it is worth bouncing obstructionists like DLCers in favor of trying to get Democrats into office. If we fail, we are no worse off because the DINOs are not advancing anything except the repuke-lite version of corporatism.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:54 AM
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11. That is what primaries are for
Edited on Tue Feb-09-10 11:54 AM by Freddie Stubbs
But if 1/3 of the party takes its ball and goes home after losing the primary then the Republicans will win every time.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 05:08 PM
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8. Bob Casey is a true Dem
Bob Casey had a major role in trying to work out compromises to keep the health care bill together. Without him, it would have fallen apart earlier. He is a loyal Dem. He is personally against abortion, but does not insist in trying to legislate his own beliefs.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:02 PM
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9. Yes. He is and I would be proud to have him as my senator. n/t
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:45 PM
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10. Senator Casey was instrumental in getting CHIP passed last year.
I personally am proud to have Senator Casey represent me. I may not agree with him on everything, but the man has principles.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:50 PM
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17. Yes, there IS a huge difference. And if you get Toomey in there for the next 25 years...

...you'll know it. Be warned -- if Toomey wins, he'll be in there for more than one term doing all kinds of mischief; and good luck getting him out.

And let's get real -- no liberal will be replacing him.

I am so sick and tired of so-called "liberals" and "progressives" who, in the name of holding out for what they deem the perfect candidate, will gladly cast (or not cast) their vote to help the darkest of the dark side.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 08:11 PM
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18. R I C K S A N T O R U M ...
You have one Fin short A memory if you are "willing to suffer a term of Toomey" ...

Toomey is cut from the SAME friggen mold as Santorum, and one day of that deranged lunatic was one day too many in congress, and he lasted more than one term ...

I hate specter and was geared up to try to support whoever the D was to try to take him down ... He is a friggen douchebag, and I will hate myself for voting for him, but he is better by a LONG mile than Toomey ...

I want Sestak to be the candidate and am going to support him though the primary, but he is dead in the water ...

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:54 PM
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12. Seslak Made a Mistake in Not Spending Money on Ads
Seslak has tried to take full advantage of free media. However, it hasn't gotten him far in the polls. He is sitting on $6 million, and hasn't spent any on commercial ads. He needs to increase his visibility with the average voter vs. just trying to smooze with local county officials. He has to show his viability as a candidate soon, or its over.
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PADEMJES12 Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 05:15 PM
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13. Sestak spend money?
JP-

Sestak does not have 6 million. He has 5.1 million. They say Joe is pretty tight with a buck with everyone,
with exception of his family members. We'll check on this when 4Q comes out here any day now online.

Second, he cant increase his visibility anymore than he already has. He has been scratching and clawing to
get on every talk show; in every paper and that is to his credit.

His candidacy has simply not been able to gain any traction. For a while he was held up by progressives
as "their champion", but obviously after coming out for the surge in Afghanistan and warrantless wiretapping...
everyone is like ok, i cant fake this anymore.

I do agree with you, with the Specter endorsement and the polling, it is time for sestak to take the fight to meehan.
This is esp. crucial for the Dems now that Murtha has tragically and unexpectedly passed. We need an expert in Military
matters in the house. This would be an ultimate call to service by Sestak if he did this.

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PADEMJES12 Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:10 AM
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14. I just heard sestak is dropping out of the race? Anyone know anything about this?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:59 AM
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15. Sestak is only running for U.S. Senate, staff says
By Thomas Fitzgerald

Inquirer Staff Writer

U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak's staff said yesterday that the Delaware County Democrat was running just for the U.S. Senate, seeking to quell speculation in state political circles that he planned instead to run for reelection to the House.

Talk buzzed among county Democrats and state party leaders after Sestak's staff received House nominating petitions from the Pennsylvania Department of State for the May 18 primary.

"The congressman is running for the United States Senate and will be filing petitions only for the Senate," spokesman Jonathon Dworkin said.

He said the campaign had received a packet of House petitions but wouldn't use them. "Every incumbent member of Congress automatically receives the House petitions, but we asked for petitions for the Senate, and those are the ones we will be circulating," Dworkin said.

more: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20100211_Sestak_is_only_running_for_U_S__Senate__staff_says.html
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:23 PM
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16. Another interesting development was Jack Wagner winning twice as many votes as Onorato.
Wagner got 302 to Onorato's 153. Not enough for an endorsement, but still a big margin.

www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/regional/s_666242.html - February 9, 2010
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 08:14 PM
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19. Onorato has a healthy $$ edge ...
I like Onorato a lot better ... Wagner kind of makes my skin crawl in a prototype politician way, I don't understand how people always seem to gravitate toward those types ... Onorato is a get things done type, and I think is the best bet to actually make some substantative changes in Pa, while Wagner would just be a figure head kind of guy ...

Wagner has the edge, but Onorato is going to give him a run for his money ...
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 03:01 PM
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20. I'm still undecided on this one. I just don't want to end up with Corbett.
A lot of people in Alleg. Co. dislike Onorato, and they know him best. If Wagner can beat Corbett, then maybe we would be better off with him as our candidate. I wonder why the Rendell machine is behind Onorato, though? Anyone know?
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 08:16 PM
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22. Yeah ...
I don't know if it is just PA, but you kind of have to get uninspiring guys like Casey, Wagner ect to be able to win the state races ...
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 05:19 PM
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23. How bad would Corbett be?
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Yellow Horse Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 10:44 AM
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21. Onorato is a disgustingly arrogant DINO.
Edited on Sun Feb-14-10 10:46 AM by Yellow Horse

I have never met a pol as totally arrogant as Dan Onorato. He's not really that intelligent so he surrounds himself with lackeys who really make the decisions and then say what he wants to hear. No doubt as gov will do even more of that.

As county executive of Allegheny County, he thinks it's all about HIM. Dan Onorato has refused to cooperate with the Allegheny County Council and major citizen groups (except when his lackeys tell him it's OK to do so, then he takes all the credit.)

Ask anyone from Allegheny County how they like the Drink Tax, or having Pittsburgh (the whole region, really) shut down by the G-20 for several days so Onorato could further inflate his ego (and his campaign $$ coffers.)

Arrogant does not even begin to describe how disgusting Dan Onorato is.

I will NOT vote for Dan Onorato. If he is the Dem nominee, I go with Corbett, or at least I'll write in Mickey Mouse.
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