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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:16 PM
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Police find 4 dead in suburban Cincinnati apartment
Police find 4 dead in suburban Cincinnati apartment


SHARONVILLE, Ohio (AP) -- Four men believed to have been dead at least a week were found Thursday in a suburban Cincinnati apartment, and police said they were investigating the deaths as homicides.

The men, described as Hispanic and in their mid 20s, worked for a construction company and hadn't been to work since Dec. 4, Sharonville police Lt. John Cook said.

"These guys were pretty loyal workers and it was unusual that they would not be there at work," Cook said.

Officers received a call from a maintenance worker at the Timber Ridge Apartments, who said an employer told him one of the men had not been at work for some time, police spokeswoman Amy Williams said.

An officer accompanied the maintenance worker into the apartment, where the bodies were found Thursday morning.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:18 PM
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1. Any bets they were murdered by some
anti-immigration loony.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:20 PM
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3. that could be too.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:18 PM
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7. More likely
It was part of a robbery. Immigrants make great targets because they tend to not use banks but instead have lots of cash around. Also, most are afraid to go to the police.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:04 PM
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10. I'll take that bet.
What do want to wager?

A grand sound cool?

PM me & we'll work out the amount & details so you can pay me when it comes out this was a basic robbery or drug related crime.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:19 PM
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2. Gods. That's awful.
What did the site manager decide he didn't want to pay his labor even the pitiful sum he probably was?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:25 PM
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4. I think the company they worked for were the ones who went to the house
to check on them. This was on the news a bit ago here and the Sharonville police were pretty shaken up over it. I think they said that they've had one murder all year until this.

I drive right past the apartments on my way to work everyday. :cry:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:55 PM
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5. ..and so it begins...
The Republicans finally get to reap what they have sown with their hatred and racism against Hispanics and their new immigration policy?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:56 PM
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6. That simple
and that sad.
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DemEyeDick Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:29 AM
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8. I live in these apartments
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 11:35 AM by DemEyeDick
I think I have met these Mexicans, but I usually hung out with the Russians in the buildings. I was shocked when I found out these guys had been murdered. It is so sad that all the racist whiteys have whipped people into such a anti-immigrant frenzy. I am so sad right now about all of this. The state of affairs in this country is just beyond comprehension at times. I just hope that the Presidential elections will bring about a savior for all of us from this madness. We need a comprehensive immigration reform bill passed along with hate crimes laws so that all peoples who are discriminated against can be protected equally under the law.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071214/NEWS01/712140441

Last Updated: 11:12 am | Friday, December 14, 2007
Slain man's van found
4 victims stopped showing up for work about 9 days ago, employer says
BY EILEEN KELLEY | EKELLEY@ENQUIRER.COM, STEVE KEMME | SKEMME@ENQUIRER.COM

Update: SHARONVILLE - Police found a purple van this morning they think may have been owned by one of the four men found stabbed to death Thursday in an apartment.

The purple Plymouth Voyager minivan was located about 9:45 a.m. in the 1500 block of East Kemper Road, about five miles from the crime scene, said Lt. John Cook, Sharonville police spokesman. The van is being towed away now.

It may be one of the few clues police have in the stunning quadruple homicide discovered Thursday morning when the men failed to show up for work for more than a week.

Sharonville police received an anonymous tip at 9:10 a.m. today the van was in the grocery store parking lot.

This is the only new development so far today in the murders that remain so much a mystery police still aren’t sure of the victims' identities. It may take days to identify them, Cook said.

The four victims lived a sparse existence, sleeping on mattresses on the floor with little other furniture in an apartment that fetches about $700 a month.

For the past two years, the men could be seen getting into a car and dutifully heading off to work before 8 a.m. each day.

Around the large complex, they were simply known as "The Mexicans."

The routine that many here became accustomed to stopped more than nine days ago when the men stopped showing up for work.

Thursday, Sharonville police, who were asked to do a wellness check on the four men, found themselves in the middle of a crime scene.

The bodies of the men were found in their apartment, heavily decomposed.

One was found in the hallway inside the unit, the others in two of the bedrooms.

The deaths of the men at the Timber Ridge Apartments were homicides, Hamilton County Coroner O'dell Owens said.

Owens did not release the identities of the men but said they were Hispanic. Both he and police suggested that it would take time to track down families.

"We have quite a mess on our hands," Lt. Cook said.

"These guys were pretty loyal workers, and it was unusual that they would not be there at work."

There were signs of violence and struggle, police said. Early indications suggest that the men were stabbed to death, not shot.

The deaths are the second, third, fourth and fifth homicides for the city of roughly 14,000 residents this year. Last year was homicide-free.

"I just don't know what to say," said Adam Ficke, 22, a resident who arrived home from work from his job as a cook at Bob Evans to find the parking lot filled with television antennas, police and men in white protective suits.

"It's just so strange to come into my neighborhood and find out that something like this has happened," he said.

The men worked for Abc Precision Masonry & Concrete Inc. in Mason and hadn't shown up since Dec. 4. Abc co-owner Bryan McCurley said the men, whom he would not identify, worked for the small firm off and on for four or five years.

"They were excellent workers. We're grieving, and we're hurting," he said. "They were like family, that's why it hurts so much."

An odor had begun to alarm some neighbors, but many thought it was just a dead animal, police said.

Police were called Thursday by the masonry company to check on the men.

"It is clearly a quadruple homicide," Owens said. "There is no indication of a homicide-suicide."

Neighbors said they felt safe at the complex that also offers a clubhouse, swimming pool, volleyball court and playground. That safety factor was so strong for some that they admitted that they didn't even lock their doors in the day.

"We'll be sure to lock it now," Joyce Smith, 69, said. Smith and her husband, Thomas, have lived at the complex for 15 years.

"It's pretty horrifying. It makes you wonder if there's anyplace that's safe," Thomas Smith said.

Jim Minor, who lives across the hall, said he saw police arrive in the morning and shortly after saw four bodies removed.

"They had the door open, and I saw the blood inside," he said.

Minor said at least four people lived in the apartment, but he often saw more going in and out.

"They're quiet and kept to themselves," he said. "They'd just say 'hi' and that was about it."

Jennifer Hammond, 33, of West Chester is the on-scene manager of Timber Ridge apartments.

She and the rest of the residents of the 248-unit complex are stunned by the killings.

"They've just been great residents," she said.

She's sent a letter to the rest of the complex residents telling them to contact her or Sharonville police if they have questions or concerns about the four men killed there.

It was unclear whether all the victims lived at the same apartment, but one of their cars was in the parking lot.

Staff writers Jennifer Baker and Kimball Perry contributed to this story.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:06 PM
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11. I'm an astronaut.
:thumbsup:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:51 AM
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9. "They were excellent workers."
There, in a nutshell, is a symptom of a society that objectifies human beings - seeing them as a means, rather than an end in themselves.

Nowhere in the story is it alleged or implied that these men were "illegal aliens" ... yet it might be reasonable to infer that they were. Four single men in their mid-twenties sharing an apartment with little to no furniture and no mention of family or connections to the community other than as "workers." Further, the inability of authorities to reliably identify them may be the result of counterfeit identification.

I find it sad and remarkable that the "best" that is said in the story merely regards their labor ... not WHO they are or their family or community connections. Indeed, that they didn't "bother" anyone - i.e. could be IGNORED - is counted as a positive. Appalling.

:cry:

When will we get serious and CEASE the trafficking in human labor and perpetuation of conditions (both domestic and foreign) which drive such exploitation?? When will we CEASE the gaming and corruption of our (so-called) "immigration" laws to ACTUALLY facilitate IMMIGRATION rather than having them merely create CLASSES of human COMMODITIES for labor value only?

It's fucking insane. We continue to call this an "immigration" issue and it's anything BUT an immigration issue. It's about "come and work for cheap and then get the fuck out of our face!"

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