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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:23 AM
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Protest Condi Rice ! Sunday 11/8th at 5:15pm Beth El Synagogue, St. Louis Park
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 12:28 AM by annm4peace
TACKLE TORTURE AT THE TOP !
Anti-Torture Rally Outside Condoleezza Rice Speech

outside Beth El Synagogue, 5224 W. 26th St, St. Louis Park, MN

If you had two minutes of “Unscripted Q and A” with Condoleezza, what would YOU ask?

We will be reading a number of the good but hard questions that people have thus
far suggested for Ms. Rice.

So bring your good questions, anti-torture signs, your candles (for the concluding candlelight vigil for all victims of torture) or flashlights, and if you have them, wear your orange “Close-Gitmo” jumpsuit! or wear an orange jumpsuit.

Or just bring yourselves as we’ll have plenty of signs and candles and questions.

Hope to see everyone holding their candle high against the despicable practice of torture!


Please help us get the word out for people to come participate in this non-violent, peaceful protest of war criminal Condoleezza Rice who willfully and deceitfully sold the war on Iraq by fear mongering about “mushroom clouds” and also by following Dick Cheney “to the dark side” of illegal torture.

Now Rice is attempting to make big money off her wrongful actions in the Bush Administration. (The St. Louis Park Synagogue is offering tickets between $50 and $1250 and selling tables at $12,500 to people to come hear Condi Rice speak.)


"We Did Not Torture Anyone"
- Condolezza Rice
April 27, 2009
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:27 AM
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1. Condoleezza Rice’s tenure as Secretary of State was marred with failures of truth, justice and peace
http://www.mndaily.com/2009/11/03/rice-speak-st-louis-park

(Letter to the Editor)

Condoleezza Rice’s tenure as Secretary of State was marred with failures of truth, justice and peace.

Published: 11/03/2009

By Chuck Turchick


Sunday, Nov. 8, Beth El Synagogue will “proudly” present former National Security Advisor and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as the latest luminary in its National Speaker Series. She will deliver her speech in the main sanctuary under a huge arch emblazoned with the Hebrew words for “Truth, Justice, Peace.” I wish this were an editorial cartoon. It isn’t. But those three words provide a good framework for an analysis of Rice’s government tenure.

Truth

Rice’s multiple appearances before House and Senate committees reveal a stunning lack of recall of events preceding and subsequent to Sept. 11. In a Jan. 23, 2003 New York Times op-ed, she wrote of “Iraq’s efforts to get uranium from abroad,” when she had multiple reports that the story was not true. She also attempted to prohibit Department of State employees from appearing before staff of a Congressional committee investigating this false allegation. And knowing full well the British report had been based on forged documents, she approved the infamous 16 words in President George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech about the Niger-uranium connection crucial to our invasion of Iraq.

Justice

Whether in the “justice” we have meted out or in the lack of accountability for our own perpetrators, the secretary’s record borders on criminal. She claimed the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe called Guantanamo a “model medium-security prison.” The OSCE said no such statement was made on its behalf.

On April 27, 2009, Rice said, “We did not torture anyone.” The International Committee of the Red Cross, the FBI, General Counsel to our armed services and our own Military Commission judges disagree. For example, in a Feb. 14, 2007 report, the ICRC said, “n many cases, the ill-treatment to which were subjected while held in the CIA program, either singly or in combination, constituted torture.”

Rice claimed, “I didn’t authorize anything. I conveyed the authorization of the administration to the agency that they had policy authorizations subject to the Justice Department’s clearance.” Documents released this April suggest her involvement in the approval of waterboarding — before the “torture memos” were even written — was much greater.

Peace

As a member of the elite White House Iraq Group, Rice was at the center of the spin/lies that led up to our invasion of Iraq. As a member of the administration, Rice stirred up the greatest of unfounded fears saying, “We don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” Now, hundreds of thousands of deaths later, she doesn’t want to take responsibility for her role. It is more than merely arguable that this war was illegal under even liberal readings of international law obligations. Rice was instrumental in ginning up support for the war with multiple misstatements, exaggerations and lies.

Rice has frequently defended her decisions with “unless you were there.” We and Beth El Synagogue leaders are there now. To give Rice a platform to justify immoral and illegal policies is to bury our heads in the sand. We are coming close to being good Germans. This is not about second-guessing, not letting go or looking backward. This is about justice; this is about not allowing the horrors of the past to continue now and in the future.

Tackling Torture at the Top, a committee of Women Against Military Madness, will be peacefully demonstrating for “Truth, Justice and Peace” at an anti-torture rally 5:15 p.m. Nov. 8 outside Beth El Synagogue. Veterans for Peace, National Lawyers Guild Minnesota and the Anti-War Committee, among others, have endorsed the demonstration. We especially welcome Beth El members who share our view and do not wish to contribute to Rice’s no-doubt extravagant fee to join us.

If interested in forming a University of Minnesota anti-torture/torture accountability group, please call 612-871-8793.

Chuck Turchick

University alumnus
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 09:54 AM
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4. VFP President's letter to the Beth El who invited Dr (torture) Rice
Dear Rabbi Davis, Dr. Krupp, and Director Goldberg:

I have purchased a ticket to the November 8 talk by Condoleeza Rice and hope that "unscripted question and answer session" truly means that, in that my military and spiritual experiences trouble me greatly regarding my country torturing and calling it something else.

I believe the Geneva Conventions mean what they say, as do the Old and New Testaments of the Scriptures, both of which summarize the Law as "Love the Lord God with all your heart, and your neighbor as yourself".

I was drafted in 1970 and served as an Army Medic.

I am currently honored to serve as President of Veterans for Peace local chapter 27, an organization of men and women from all wars, dedicated to finding forceful means other than violence
and killing to end terrorism and warfare in the world.

Vets for Peace is also one of the groups that felt compelled to peacefully demonstrate their concern outside Beth El Synagogue during the Rice talk because of our military training in Geneva Conventions.

I know there are some who bow to unwarranted and illegal pressure to violate the rules against torture and killing of civilians, but honorable soldiers are committed to refuse those atrocities in and out of the military, forever.

When I took my medic and military training, I was particularly struck by the dynamic presentation on Geneva Conventions.

My first reaction was, "You mean there are rules for something so horrendous as war", but that soon gave way to, "OK, some decency and humanity, from the start, is needed in such an inhuman enterprise".
The drill instructor forcefully presented the sanctions against torture and killing civilians, and then thundered, "We abide by these always. They (the enemy) don't".

That being said, I feel ashamed and dishonored as a Veteran by the way those rules were treated during
the Bush Administration. I also feel outraged that members of that administration be given star billing, and, I assume, substantial renuneration to speak publicly, especially in a place of worship.

My understanding is that Ms. Rice is on record saying things like, "The President instructed us that nothing we would do would be outside our legal obligations under the conventions of torture", and "We never tortured anyone", and "I never authorized anything.

I conveyed the authorization of the administration to the agency." It may seem a side issue, but I think not, that when I was drafted, it was almost impossible to get into the National Guard, which was a known way to avoid being sent to Vietnam and combat.

Thus Ms. Rice is speaking about serious authorization from a President who got into that Guard via privilege, when most could not, and then didn't even fulfill that obligation.

However, even if that situation were not there for people to argue about, the statements above cast the President as one who defines and interprets the law, not as a leader who lives by and inspires all of us to live by the law of the land.

Part of my medic time was spent in a Field Battalion Training unit in Germany. Because I was drafted, a private with a family, I had to find my own housing in the nearby community. I had learned German in high school, and so was able to speak with locals to help other medics living off base, as well as travel and interact profusely with the people of Germany, whom I found to be as kind and caring as anyone else I'd been around in my life.

That experience led me, upon discharge, to read Hitler's MEIN KAMPF to try to understand how a good people could get behind someone leading them thru the horrendous atrocities occurring under Nazi Germany. I was most horrified that the book read like any number of conservative Christian treatises I had devoured while growing up: "Because of this . . . and this . . . and that", the inflammatory book elaborated, "It is the will of God that we exterminate the Jews." I'm aware that
most Christian churches just went along, mainly out of fear of the consequences of standing
up and saying what their deepest gut feeling and training had to be telling them. I'm also aware that major resistance came from some churches, as well as from within the German Military -- people who were saying, "I don't care what they are saying officially. Everything I've been taught and know to be true says this is wrong".

Germany lost that war, so just about everyone, even most Germans, now accept the devastating evil of what happened, but I submit that any time we adopt rules, whether the 10 commandments (or their "Love God, Love Neighbor" summary) or the Geneva Conventions, we accept their binding power on everyone. Just because the President or Der Fuhrer says it's the will of God to do something different, doesn't make it so. It seems to be human nature for children and adults to try to twist the rules to get what they want, but I, and many others I know and respect, have total inability to respect leaders who twisted (or were complicit in the "new spin") the meaning of the Geneva Conventions we were so forcefully taught in the military.

If torture in "this situation" is not torture, then don't tell me we don't do it.

Tell me instead that we signed the Geneva Agreements, but we never really meant it.

Tell me we go to church or synagogue because it's a way to look respectable, but we don't intend to live by the teachings.

Tell me that enemy civilians and prisoners are not really people, and we have every right to do with and to them what we want, because THEY ARE THE ENEMY.

I still won't go along with you, but at least I won't feel like you lied to me in an environment fraught with talk of HONOR AND DUTY TO COUNTRY.

Larry Johnson
President, Vets for Peace Chapter 27
October 31, 2009
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:32 AM
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2.  Protesters gear up for Rice's appearance at Twin Cities synagogue
http://www.startribune.com/politics/local/67195432.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUI

Protesters gear up for Rice's appearance at Twin Cities synagogue
By PAUL WALSH, Star Tribune

A handful of Twin Cities peace organizations are targeting for protest the speaking engagement of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at a St. Louis Park synagogue next month.

The groups are characterizing their plans as an "anti-torture rally" on Nov. 8 outside Beth El Synagogue.

Among the participants are Women Against Military Madness, Veterans for Peace Minnesota and the National Lawyers Guild, said Colleen Rowley, a former FBI agent and onetime candidate for Congress.

Rowley said the protesters intend to remain on public property and have no intention of engaging in any civil disobedience such as being arrested or otherwise disrupting Rice's evening appearance.

She said "it would be nice to get a couple of hundred people" to turn out in opposition to the appearance by former President George W. Bush's top diplomat.

--Paul Walsh • 612-673-4482
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 12:34 AM
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3. Watch "Torturing Democracy"
I think it was a Frontline show.

After watching it I was so angered all over again. It should be shown over and over until they bring Condi Rice, and the others to justice.
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