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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:27 AM
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how the right is training their low income sheep
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 06:28 AM by luckyleftyme2
anyone with an income of less than $250,000 a year pays more than his fair share of income tax.
The 10 percent of households with the highest incomes pay more than half of all federal taxes. They pay more than 70 percent of federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

the real fact is if you are the top 10% of earners you should be responsible for the first 90% of the income tax-not a mere 70%!!
remind your right wing low income friends of this! the 10% want to keep shafting the sheep!

the average family of four is taking home less and the economy is tail spinning because of it!
how's that melvin!
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:10 PM
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1. the boy is def. a sheeple

I am refering to the piece I put in some time ago where their leader in the house showed
how poorly he read or how much he lied! you can figure that out!

seems john boeya is still speiling b.s. galore claming the majority of economists and voters want only budget cutys no tax increases:
THE TRUTH IS THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE=88% OF THE PEOPLE WANT AN INCREASE ON THE TOP 10%!
Political AnimalBlog
August 24, 2011 9:20 AM

Boehner touts economic survey that rejects GOP line


By Steve Benen

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House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) office seemed awfully excited this week about a report from the National Association of Business Economists. Boehner’s press release proclaimed:

A majority of economists surveyed believe spending cuts are the key to reducing the federal deficit — not job-crushing tax hikes. <…>

The report … reflects the sentiment of the American people who oppose tax hikes “in a big way,” according to US News. Republicans are listening.



I can’t say whether Republicans are listening, but they certainly don’t appear to be reading.

Let’s set the record straight. For one thing, arguing that the public opposes any and all tax increases is demonstrably ridiculous. For months, dozens of independent national polls have shown strong public support for tax hikes on the wealthy. Indeed, the demand for higher taxes is bipartisan and consistent. Boehner can pretend reality doesn’t exist, but it doesn’t change the facts.

But more important is the report from the National Association of Business Economists that the Speaker’s office is so excited about. Does it show that most economists want spending cuts, “not job-crushing tax hikes”? Actually, no, it doesn’t.

Jim Tankersley took a closer look at the NABE survey.

A wide majority of respondents believe the federal government should reduce its budget deficit with a combination of spending cuts and, at least in small part, tax increases.

Only 12 percent said the deficit should be reduced “only with spending cuts.” <…>

So, in total, nearly 88 percent of working business economists disagreed with the House GOP mantra that, as Boehner’s office put it in Monday’s press release, “spending cuts are the key to reducing the federal deficit - not job-crushing tax hikes.”



Most Americans want a balanced approach to debt reduction, which would include revenue and cuts, and most economists agree. Boehner’s office, in print, argued the exact opposite.

god I luv politico and those other fact checking fact finders!
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:59 AM
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2. how dumb the sheeple are

I recently read this in an other forum. a person who is constantly posting in their and is a die hard sheeple stated he had to cut back to afford heating oil!(who hasn't) well this brainwashed fool is what I am talking about!
Getting Rich Off The Poor: How The Koch Brothers Wealth Grew 43% Since 2010
September 21, 2011By Jason Easley32diggsdiggShare123014

A week after the Census Bureau reported that American poverty has hit an all time high, America has learned the wealth of Charles and David Koch has increased 43% since March of 2010.

According to Forbes, the Koch Brothers have seen their fortune grow by 43% in a little more than a year to $25 billion. According to Think Progress the Koch boys have made their money by aggressively speculating in energy markets, “Koch uses legitimate hedging products to create price stability. However, the documents reveal that Koch is also participating in the unregulated derivatives markets as a financial player, buying and selling speculative products that are increasingly contributing to the skyrocketing price of oil.”

In other words, every time the price of gas goes up for no particular reason other than the vague energy speculators excuse, the Koch brothers just made themselves more money. Charles and David Koch are profiting by artificially raising the price of energy futures. What makes the Koch brothers different is that they have taken some of their vast fortune and used it to fund candidates and elected officials in the Republican Party who will allow them to keep making money while the rest of America winces when they have to fill up the gas tank.

The Bush Recession has been great for people like Charles and David Koch. With a 43% gain in wealth, it is no wonder why they want to keep the bad times going for the rest of us. While the super rich have gotten even richer, everyone has seen their wealth plummet.

As David A. Griffith wrote,

Leverage is an amazing thing: When prices go up, the borrower gets all the gains. And when prices go down, the borrower takes all the losses. Some families lost everything when the bubble collapsed, others lost very little. But, on average, American homeowners lost 55% of the wealth in their home.

Most middle-class families didn’t have much wealth to begin with — about $100,000. For the 22 million families right in the middle of the income distribution (those making between $39,000 and $62,000 before taxes), about 90% of their assets was in the house. Now half of their wealth is gone and it will never come back as long as they live.

Politicians on both sides of aisle tend to get caught up in the stock market as an assessment of economic confidence, but too few of them are talking about the real cause of the middle class decline. Since the housing market collapse the rich are continuing to get rich, while most Americans are still reeling from losing half of their wealth.

In case you still think that taxes should not be increased on the rich, check out the two charts below.

Koch Brothers Wealth:



History of Millionaires Tax Rates:



Lowering taxes on the wealthy has made the rich richer, and inequality greater. People like the Koch Brothers don’t create wealth for us all. They have been creating wealth for themselves at our expense. The old Reagan era idea that a high tide raises all boats has proven itself to be completely false over the past decade. The system that we have in place now raises the yachts and drowns the rest of us.

President Obama’s proposal to increase taxes on the wealthy is an opportunity for the rest of us to get the water out of lungs. One tax increase on millionaires isn’t going to reverse a decade’s worth of growth in inequality, but it is a start.

15.1% of the American people are now living in poverty, while the Republican job creators are adding to their wealth. In 2012, it will be time for us to take control of our country back from the Koch heads.
this needs to be used to wake up the fools that are supporting the stalemate.

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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:07 PM
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3. why I used this

Few if any know who finances some of these Conservative organizations such as the heritage foundation.
the koch family is the first one that comes to mind.
I stated this so some of you will use your computer to realize who is donating money and then try to figure out why!
note this is a tax exempt conservative organization that work very effectively to change Maine politics!
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:21 PM
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4. you think oil is the only increase
here is a chart on food prices -gas is on an avg. 75cents higher a gallon than this time last year.
Food inflation eases to 8.84% on September 22, 2011
Food inflation eases to 9.47% on September 15, 2011
Food inflation rises to 9.55% on September 08, 2011
Food inflation rises to 10.05% on September 01, 2011
Food inflation rises to 9.80% on August 25, 2011
Food inflation rises to 9.03% on August 18, 2011
Food inflation rises to 9.90% on August 11, 2011
Food inflation rises to 8.04% on August 4, 2011
Food inflation fell to 7.33% on July 28, 2011
Food inflation fell to 7.58% on July 21, 2011
June inflation hits 9.44% on July 14, 2011

How much did your wages go up? how about your health care premium? etc. etc.
who is blocking congress from creating jobs? who ran the deficits up an claimed for 8 years deficits didn't matter!
about time the leaders in the Democratic party stepped up to the plate! their the ones that should be posting this!

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