A question other Hoosiers would understand...

[salin]

anyone else confused about DayLight Savings Time? When the heck does it start? I believe that no counties near Marion nor Monroe (the two I spend most of my time in) are on Central time - so that I won't get caught in even new DLS dramas (per figuring out the time)... Anyone else NOT looking forward to this change? Having spent most of my adult life out of the state - but having been back awhile - it was much easier to keep track of the change in time (per communicating with Indiana) when I was outside of the state. Have always rather enjoyed the day getting longer and shorter naturally, without the manipulating the clocks... Even outside of the state, I preferred Indiana's no DLS observance. Guess in a short time I will sound like an old person lamenting the "good old days"...

[Voltaire]

1. I'd love to be able to help here

But I'm a transplant from Philadelphia. I hardly know what the issue is all about. Although, I thought the way things were for the 10 years I've been here were fine with me.

[AlwaysDemocrat]

2. Change is next Sunday - April 2 at 2:00 AM

It might cause some problems for businesses if they don't change the time zone on their Windows computers to Eastern with daylight savings time. If they are currently set to "Indiana East" the change to DST will not take place. This is causing some concern for those who use computer based calendaring programs such as MS Outlook. Check the IU Knowledgebase for some helpful hints.

[salin]

3. Thanks for the date, and the tip.

That could be a little confusing (per our Outlook system.)

[izzybeans]

4. The only effect that it will have on Indy is it will require you to change

timezones on your computer to Easter Standard Time. And then in the fall, fall back like the rest of EST.

As far as who or what changes is beyond me. I find it will make it darker earlier and that's depressing.

[salin]

5. Does Evansville go Central or Eastern?

Insulated here - all around us is going Eastern - haven't kept track of where the time will move to Central.

[izzybeans]

6. I'll have to ask my brother. But I don't think they are changing.

I am probably wrong. If they aren't changing then they will always be behind Indy b/c they will be in (CST)-"Chicago" Standard Time.

I remember it being 4:00 when it got dark out in the late fall, early winter as a child.

[izzybeans]

7. I just read an email from work about the time change

now I'm confused. I have no idea what time its going to be. Honestly.
:shrug:

[Hoosier]

13. Actually...

It will get darker later.....instead of dusk at 8, it will be at 9

[izzybeans]

14. Yeah I had it backwards. Really confused.

I miss the East Coast where the sun comes up over the water. It's so simple there. ;)

[hippiechick]

8. OH! Did you hear about Pulaski County ?

I did a major :wtf: when I heard this! Because they're so pissed off at the Feds imposing Central time on them, they've mandated that only state and federal office buildings/post office/courts, etc are going to be on Central time. The rest of the county is going to stay on EST.

So what do you do if you work in a Fed office but have kids in school, etc ~ how do you synch up your life schedule with your job schedule ?

What a bunch of friggin' morons !!!

[salin]

9. What a disaster.

I would guess that it couldn't last - the two time zones within one county depending on place of employment.

[LiberalFighter]

37. I love that!!! That is great. Hope Mitch the Bitch gets the credit.

If I was them I wouldn't had included the state buildings.

Just think when Republicans are in charge they make things so much better. Mostly for golfers.

[salin]

10. Next week across the state... in Homage to the band Chicago:

"Does Anybody Really Know What Time it Is?"

[Jokerman]

11. Changes this year, and again next year.

I'm working on updating 800 computers that have previously been programed to ignore DST and I find out that in 2007, the DST start and end dates will change nationwide, adding about three weeks to the DST window.

Personally, I think I'll prefer having that extra hour of daylight at 9PM instead of 5AM but my bet is that we end up back with our own "Indiana Time Zone" within a couple of years.

Besides, everybody knows that DST is just a commie (sorry, terrist) plot to catch us off guard for the big invasion.

[salin]

12. I suspect that you are correct, and that we will be back to

DSL-less times in a couple of years. I prefer no DLS (having lived both with and without), but really it isn't that important of an issue to me, however it is a hot issue for many. I bet that not only will it change, but it along with Major Moves 1 and 2 (toll road = 1; 69 extension = 2) will see Mitch become a one-termer, and see a changeover in the house, along with a push to end fed control over which county observes which dls time zone.

[LiberalFighter]

38. The Major Moves better be digested and details publicized so that...

the public are aware of the truth about it.

[Aimah]

15. I knew the bill passed but had no idea it went into effect this week.

I'm not a morning person, so I'll be fairly angry for at least 2 weeks until I recalibrate my body clock. I didn't care for Daylight savings time when I lived in GA.

[Gemini Cat]

16. Exactly!!

I hate DST and I suspect I'll be in a foul mood for days.
:mad::nuke:

[bfam9913]

17. I grew up in the Evansville area.

They were always on Central time and observed DST. Essentially, Evansville was and is always on the same time as Chicago. It used to be contained to the 4 counties in the southwestern tip of the state and a few counties around Chicago. These areas of Central time zone have expanded along with the confusion. With respect to the southwestern tip of the state, Central time zone has expanded out one or two more counties deep into the state.

Over the past few years, I've gotten used to not changing my clocks. I would rather be on EST during the winter time because, in Evansville, it gets dark at 4:00 p.m. and it sucks. In the central part of the state, during the summer time while we are on EDST, it won't get dark until almost 10:00 p.m.

They should have jus left the time zone boundaries where they were and maybe started observing DST in all zones. I do know that it was confusing for business and family for the most of the state because, they never knew what time that it was here. I used to do lots of business with the west coast and they never knew if we were 2 or 3 hours ahead of them. Simply observing DST would have alleviated confusion outside of the state and not expanded the confusion around the time zone lines.

Having grown up in that area, I am capable of converting and traversing time zones. However, I do realize that most Hoosiers have never had to deal with it and are very confused.

[thinkingwoman]

18. I'm not confused...I just don't like it

It's stupid. And Pointless. And it doesn't save daylight or dollars.

The best part, for me, will be the realization among the remaining hoosiers who are drinking the kool-aid that changing clocks doesn't change our economic reality one iota.

[salin]

19. are there really people who think that?

I never heard folks attempt to rationalize this as improving economic reality - only as making it 'easier' for some businesses (easier - not "more profitable). I am not questioning you - I think you come into contact with a much broader range of Hoosier views than I do - and I greatly appreciate hearing those views. I am expressing surprise that folks would buy that rationale in the first place - it doesn't make sense.

[thinkingwoman]

20. Yes and you're right

It doesn't make a lick of sense.

Our Bitch Mitch and his handlers and enablers absolutely promised that Indiana's economic situation was hampered by not changing our clocks twice each year. I laughed out loud every time I heard that rationale, even when surrounded by Republicans (at newspaper functions).

I can assure you they did NOT appreciate my sense of humor. :evilgrin:

I should add that most Republicans I encountered did not buy that rationale, but it is the one floated to explain why Indiana HAD to make this change. :eyes:

[INdemo]

21. With the time change and the toll road issue

Guess one could say we have a rubber stamp general assembly too......

[thinkingwoman]

22. yes, and Indiana Dems...

should be screaming this to high heaven from here to November.

[salin]

25. Daylight Savings Snafus... and Major Misapporpriations (of hoosier

resources) - what other catch phrases/play on these terms, to conjour up the gut level irritation via laughing ridicule, can we coin?

[thinkingwoman]

34. OH, now you're expecting me to think?

You want me to use my brain? Oy!

I don't think I can beat Major Misappropriations...that one really appeals to me! :rofl:

[Sadie5]

23. What time zone

do I flip my PC over to. I had it on Indiana time, but manually changed it last night.

[Hoosier]

24. Eastern Time (Windows)

If using a Windows OS, it should change automatically now and going forward.

[LiberalFighter]

40. They say it helps their economy because of doing business with NY

What about Chicago? California? Texas?

[LiberalFighter]

39. If they have PDA's they could look it up... and sure that programs

are available to install on computers that would give the time for area they do business.

[Chiyo-chichi]

26. Jeff Sagarin talked about DST on Al Franken several months ago.

Sagarin is a Bloomington-based statistician who does computer sports ratings for USA Today and the BCS. On Franken, he was agruing against DST because it messes up our natural rhythms. He says it is made worse by the fact that, geographically, we should be on central time.

He has some stuff about it on his website: http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/timezone.htm

The font & layout give me a headache (especially now that I'm woozy from DST.) Fair warning - it is hard to read.

"In fact, as it stands now, INDIANA is the only state of all the 50 states that is completely in the true mathematical boundaries of one time zone (Central)and yet is wrongly classified in another (Eastern). Thus when Indiana goes onto Eastern Daylight Saving Time, it will be TWO hours off from true earth-sun time. As of now, Daylight Saving Time occurs from April-October, a 7-month period. But the U.S. Congress is moving towards extending it to March-November, which would mean Indiana would be TWO hours off from physical reality for 9 months out of the year."

"Based purely on geography, every square inch of Indiana belongs in the Central Time Zone. That's simply because Indiana lies completely between the longitudes of 87.48 W degrees(Evansville) and 84.89 W degrees(Richmond. And since the Central Time Zone is theoretically centered around 90 degrees, ranging from 82½ W - 97½ W, the entire state of Indiana falls easily into
that theoretical bandwith."

[salin]

28. I agree with him

tonight - it isn't almost midnight... it is almost eleven - but this whole clock change thing denies the body clock. (My thought just before I read the post - put it in b/c it fits)

Second - being at the western end of the time zone... in early April it is now fully light at 8 pm?!? Great - now the sunrise will be in my eyes during the commute four times a year instead of twice a year.

I have lived about a third of my life (and much of my adult life) in other states - where DLS was observed. Never loved it (having lived without it) - but it wasn't quite as jarring as it is hear, as I was never on the edge of the time zone (or more accurately - geographically in the next time zone) - so that it seemed nearly unnatural.

This is going to take some real getting used to.

My heart goes out to those working in places on one time zone and living in another (a likely scenario in several areas of the state thanks to Ditch the Mitch).

[DrGonzoLives]

31. That doesn't make sense

If Indiana is "supposed" to be in Central, why doesn't Michigan belong there as well?

Furthermore, to have eastern Indiana in Central would be horrible - it would be getting dark around 3:30 in the afternoon. I really don't see how this guy comes to his conclusion.

[LiberalFighter]

41. Where is Upper Michigan located?

You will also note that there are other states that are split into two different time zones.

[boobooday]

27. Okay, as a Hoosier

I'm really ticked off about this. It was one thing I really respected about Indiana -- resistance to chronological tyranny.

[salin]

29. I rather enjoyed being part of the resistance as well.

[Gemini Cat]

30. The lack of DST was the reason I stayed in Indiana (after moving here.) nt

[LisaLynne]

32. Yeah, I was always sort of proud of us, too.

Down with Chronological Tyranny!!! Time is an illusion, man! :)

[boobooday]

33. My dad said when they instituted DST, and IN refused,

there were all kinds of threats to end public funding, etc. For a while, they changed ONLY the clocks in the schools and the federal buildings, to protect education funding, but still refused to answer to the federally-dictated time of day. :-)

There's a great book called "The Control Revolution" where the author argues that clocks were a huge force in controlling and disciplining people to work for "the man."

[LisaLynne]

35. Ooo, that sounds like a good book.

I think I'll be adding it to my list! :)

[boobooday]

36. It's a great one for giving you a different perspective

on all the technology that surrounds us!

:-)