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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:32 AM
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Homeless San Franciscans have made themselves famous - for breaking the law!
Over the past two months, three homeless San Franciscans have had fame - for making others' lives either gone or harder!

Bobby L. Brown, Jr. - accused of stabbing 5 Muni bus riders, one in May 2009, one in September, then three in November. Held in SF County Jail since Dec. 1 on $5 million bail.

Manuel Martir - one of three suspects in a sexual assault on a 17-year-old girl. Victim claims to have been held at knifepoint by one man while two others kept watch for suspect.

Edward W. Holloway - the worst of the bunch! Arrested twice: in March 2009 for assaulting another bum (a felony because the weapons were a baseball bat and beer can), but the DA dropped charges because the victim was unavailable to testify against Holloway. In May 2009, he was arrested for stabbing his ex (what, really?) in the hand over $30. Again, Holloway got to walk free "because the victim wasn't available to testify in court". Holloway attacked Matthew A. Adams without provocation last weekend. Adams refused medical treatment, went home, and died. The police have ruled this a homicide.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:44 AM
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1. That is what happens when you turn a city into an open-air mental institution,
Some cracked out chick attacked my girlfriend in her car a while ago, pulling her hair, scratching her face and calling her a "cracker cunt" and screaming other nonsense. She was in a convertible stopped in traffic and couldn't get away.

A guy got out of another car and pulled the crackhead off her who then ran off, police were called - said the witnesses description was useless describing no less than 500 women and investigated no further.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:34 AM
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2. This blows my mind! Why do we even have laws?
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:27 AM
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3. The problem in SF is everyone is ignoring crimes committed by transients
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:31 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
Until they rape or murder somebody,

The police and prosecutors think it is a waste of time since in most cases the victim is just as likely to disappear as the perpetrator, in matters of property crime or public nuisance they don't want to bother when the loser will be released in a matter of hours and won't show in court and why chase scumbags around the bushes and alleys when you could be giving tickets to yuppies for stopping in the bus zones at BART stations to pickup or drop someone off?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:52 PM
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4. No. The problem is that most people don't attend to poverty
until someoe who appears to be poor commits a crime. If you just die quietly in the shadow of city hall, nobody minds very much.


http://www.poormagazine.org/public_html/poor_online/hero_trent.html#top

And now out of respect to lost friends like Trent Hayward, I'm hiding this miserable thread.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:16 AM
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5. Most poor people aren't violent junkies
San Francisco has a problem with violent transient drug addicts, give them a million dollars, a condo and Mini Cooper and they will still be violent drug addicts.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:34 PM
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7. I think mental illness in some form is involved
Simply being poor doesn't lead to the handful of acts described here.

The homeless guy that randomly stabbed people on MUNI, for example? That had nothing to do with being poor. The guy is just disturbed.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:54 PM
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6. UPDATE: The DA has charged Holloway with murder.
(01-20) 17:42 PST SAN FRANCISCO --

San Francisco prosecutors filed murder charges Wednesday against a transient who allegedly attacked a man for no reason over the weekend at a fast-food restaurant on Market Street.

Edward Holloway, 54, was being held without bail in the slaying of Matthew Adams, 38. Police say Holloway was yelling at patrons in a Carl's Jr. on Market Street near Seventh Street early Saturday, then hit Adams in the head with a boom box.

"The victim was hit so hard that it sent him to the ground and dented the boom box," said Brian Buckelew, a spokesman for the district attorney's office.

Adams went home, but died later that day as a result of a fractured skull suffered in the fall and a ruptured artery, prosecutors said.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/20/BAR21BL4M4.DTL
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