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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:29 PM
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Are you sitting down??
My mom told me that The Bakersfield Californian endorsed NO on Prop 8 !!!!!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:32 PM
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1. Wow. Aren't they a conservative-leaning paper? n/t
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:34 PM
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3. In Bakersfield, not less. nt
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:34 PM
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2. They better have guards around the building.
I had to read your post twice, Ronny, just to make sure I was reading it correctly.

Man, that took some cojones for the Californian to make that endorsement. I think I'll call them and order a subscription. I will probably be their only subscriber in Tiburon/Marin.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:40 PM
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7. I'm sure they are catching hell for this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:35 PM
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4. The last time I spent time in Bakersfield, my Volvo dropped a rod.
We were on our way to Yosemite and all in shorts and long car drive messy.

There was a sign over the restroom that looked like "no ladies in big hair and high heels".

:shrug:

I asked a guy where we could go eat, as we were. He said, "Ma'am, have you ever been to Bakersfield?"

lol

This is great news.

:hug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:36 PM
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5. We SERIOUSLY need five votes for this OP.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:43 PM
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8. I gave mine already! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:45 PM
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9. Thank you!
:hi:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:06 PM
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11. OK
#5 was me.

For you, B.

T.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:07 PM
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12. Hey, Tom.
:loveya:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:29 PM
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13. No, we seriously need 12 votes on this. I was #10.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:35 PM
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14. LOL!






To my present friends and to absent company.

:toast:

:loveya:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:38 PM
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6. I am practically in tears with joy. I am so hoping that Prop 8 goes down.
Our local Obama HQ keeps running out of the No on 8 materials. I'm waiting for my bumpersticker right now!

:hi: Hi Ronny!!!!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:50 PM
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10. Me, too. If BAKERSFIELD is with us, the haters have lost.
:cry:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 03:52 PM
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15. I'd have to say Good Call. That entire area is/was red.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:09 PM
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16. WOW!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:04 PM
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17. Link to the editorial
http://www.bakersfield.com/opinion/editorials/story/581251.html

<snip>
Both arguments have legitimacy. Discussions about same-sex marriage are different by their very nature. But the interracial comparison illustrates the point that popular opinion can run counter to something that, in the final analysis, may be fair and reasonable (and, with time, deemed more acceptable). And legislation that mandates who one may or may not love is, in all but the most extreme cases, flawed.

Proponents of the constitutional ban on same-sex marriage suggest that Prop. 8's failure would eventually open the door to people marrying their underage nieces, or exchanging commitment vows (presumably by proxy) with hamsters and assorted inanimate objects. Please.

California has domestic partnership laws that encompass many of the basic legal privileges and responsibilities that married couples take for granted. But barring same-sex couples from legal marriage relegates them to "separate but equal" status. The term ought to sound familiar. It's the same oppressive language we once imposed on racial minorities in this country.

The bottom line is the California Constitution and ultimately the U.S. Constitution. Both guarantee all people equal protection and equal rights under the law. We must not support any constitutional amendment that would serve to take away fundamental rights. It's as simple as that.
<snip>
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 11:16 PM
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18. I lived and worked in around Bakersfield for over 10 years
and I am amazed and thrilled- wow, thanks for posting this.
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:58 AM
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19. Kick
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 10:31 AM
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20. Redneck and conservative area!
:wow:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:23 AM
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21. wow- that is a shock.
I just got my "No on 8" yard sign.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:40 PM
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22. Wow!
Great news!

K&R
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:00 PM
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23. And I saw this today as well


This is my second sighting. The first came after I heard the Salt Lake City paper endorsed Obama
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 11:31 PM
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24. Good to get good news!
lol

:toast:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:38 AM
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25. So did the San Diego Union-Tribune
Although they did endorse McCain for President yesterday.
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