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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:48 PM
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I'm voting "no" on 94 95 96 97
In the past , I have voted for the Indian Casinos, since then, the "big four" tribes have been playing hardball with workrfd attempting to unionize. As a union member I will not support expanding ganbling until they do right by the unions.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:39 PM
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1. Thanks, that's all I needed to hear
I was wondering about these but "anti union" is all I needed to hear.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:41 PM
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2. me, too
n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:46 PM
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3. they are bad legislation written for special interests benefits nt
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:14 PM
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4. I live near two
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 10:15 PM by mitchtv
occasionally you can see the losers hitch hiking home.
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:02 PM
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11. The losers???
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:03 PM
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21. how did they get there in the first place?
Did they lose their car in the parking lot or something?

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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:59 PM
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5. After a casino defaced the mountain in Geyserville
I will be voting no on any more casinos.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:32 PM
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6. Yeah, what a travisty. That place was sooo beautiful
and already had too much traffic. Greed fucks up everything it touches.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:18 PM
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7. The casino looks like a prison.
Which I am sure it is. A friend went to a fundraiser for some Native people who have been stripped of their tribal identity so that there is more money for those in the in-group. Gambling money carries a large karma debt.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:37 PM
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8. I've become weary of
the initiative process. We end up with bad laws, then court cases. I pretty much vote no on all of them on general principle.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:34 PM
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9. Can I get a link? If that is the case then it is NO from this union household
and also taxes, who cares about monies for the state when services are not there
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:50 AM
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10. Went looking and aparently the labor unions are FOR IT
UNITE HERE! is a major backer of four measures – Propositions 94, 95, 96 and 97 – on the Feb. 5 ballot that could block new gambling agreements, or compacts, for a group of powerful tribes that have refused to grant stronger organizing rules.

http://ww.uniontrib.com/news/state/20071224-9999-1n24casinos.html
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:19 PM
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12. intersting Now, I gotta look and find
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 05:08 PM by mitchtv
the locals here that are fighting for recognition w/ Aqua Caliente for a start: http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2007/08/indian_compact_challenges_can.html

http://www.nounfairdeals.com/keyfacts/whoopposes.htm

WHO OPPOSES THE BIG 4 GAMBLING DEALS?
Francisco Chronicle
Bakersfield Californian
Merced Sun-Star
California Professional Firefighters
American Indian Rights and Resources Organization
California Coalition Against Gambling Expansion
California Federation of Teachers
California School Employees Association
California Alliance for Retired Americans
Waste Watchers
League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) – California
Gray Panthers California
California Family Council
Indians of Enterprise #1
Pala Band of Mission Indians
Stand Up for California
California Church IMPACT
United Auburn Indian Community of the Auburn Rancheria
Orange County Taxpayers Association
San Diego County Supervisor Dianne Jacob
California Labor Federation AFL-CIO
Traditional Values Coalition
UNITE HERE International Union
California Tax Reform Association
Ya-Ka-Ama Indian Education and Development, Inc.
Salinas Police Chief Daniel M. Ortega
San Mateo County Supervisor Jerry Hill
California Highway Patrol Former Commissioner and Chief Executive Officer Maury Hannigan
Voices for Rural Living
California State Board of Equalization Vice Chair Judy Chu
San Francisco Police Commissioner Yvonne Y. Lee
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
Citizens for a Quality Environment
Valley Taxpayers, Inc.
California State Board of Equalization Member Betty Yee
San Francisco Fire Fighters Local 798
South Bay Association of Chambers of Commerce
California Conference Board of the Amalgamated Transit Union
San Jose City Councilmember Kansen Chu
Loma Linda City Council
San Francisco Assessor-Recorder Phil Ting
Hayward Councilmember Kevin Dowling
North Bay Central Labor Council, AFL-CIO
Sunnyvale City Councilmember Otto Lee
California Teamsters Public Affairs Council
San Francisco Board of Education Member Eric Mar
Casinos Represent a Poor Solution (CRAPS)
United Food Commercial Workers Western States Council
San Pablo City Council
Citizens for Local Government Accountability
Barstow Christian Ministerial Association *
United Farm Workers of America
Alameda Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Campbell City Councilmember Evan Low
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 18
Alliance of Contra Costa Taxpayers
Los Angeles Community College District Trustee Warren Furutani
Cupertino City Councilmember Gilbert Wong
Foothill DeAnza Community College District Trustee Paul Fong
A. Philip Randolph Institute, San Francisco Chapter
Senior Coalition of Santa Cruz County
Coalition of Asian Pacific Americans Founder Dale Minami
Santa Cruz City Schools, American Federation of Teachers Local 6084
The River Committee (Santa Ynez)
San Mateo Board of Education Trustee Rod Hsiao
Interfaith Committee for Worker Justice San Diego
North Orange County Community College Trustee Michael Matsuda
Santa Monica Planning Commissioner Julie Lopez Dad
West Contra Costa Unified School District Boardmember Charles T. Ramsey
California Conference of Machinists
Berkeley City Council
Contra Costa Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Coachella Valley Teachers Association
California State Commission on Asian Pacific Islander Affairs Former Chair Dr. Norman Hui
San Diego-Imperial Counties Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Jamul Dulzura Union School District Trustee Cyndy Hoffmann
East Bay Alliance for a Sustainable Economy (EBASE)
Urban Habitat
SEIU California State Council
Asian American Drug Abuse Program
Clergy & Laity United for Economic Justice – CLUE-CA
Los Angeles Alliance for a New Economy (LAANE)
Capitol Resource Family Impact
San Bernardino/Riverside Counties Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Riverside County Democratic Central Committee
Clergy & Laity United for Economic Justice – Los Angeles – CLUE-LA
Santa Clara County Republican Party Former Chairperson Gloria S. Hom
Los Angeles County Federation of Labor AFL-CIO
Santa Ynez Valley Concerned Citizens
Dolores Huerta, co-founder, United Farm Workers
San Francisco Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Fresno-Madera-Tulare-Kings Counties Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
San Francisco Community College Trustee Lawrence Wong
Violence Research Foundation
Lake County Democratic Central Committee
Sonora Councilmember William B. Canning
Barona Racetrack Committee
League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) – National
Reedley Councilmember Mary L. Fast
Los Angeles College Faculty Guild
United Auto Workers, Region 5
El Dorado County Supervisor Ron Briggs
Hesperia City Council
Marin Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
Alexander Valley Association (Healdsburg)
San Joaquin-Calaveras Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Alliance for Survival Executive Director Marion Pack
Auburn City Councilmember Mike Holmes
Santa Clara & San Benito Counties Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
Imperial County Supervisor Wally Leimgruber
Democratic Party of Sacramento County
Harvey Milk GLBT Democratic Club
South Lake Tahoe Councilmember Ted Long
Santa Clara County Democratic Central Committee Director of Community Services & Voter Registration Adrienne Grey
Sacramento Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Building & Construction Trades Council of Alameda County AFL-CIO
Weed City Councilmember David L. Pearce
San Mateo County Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Healdsburg City Councilmember Eric A. Ziedrich
Inland Counties Stonewall Democrats
Santa Maria/Orcutt Leadership Alliance
South Bay Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Sierra County Supervisor Arnold D. Gutman
Inglewood/Airport Area Chamber of Commerce
Butte-Glenn Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
National Asian Pacific American Families Against Substance Abuse
Former Plymouth City Councilmember Elida Malick
Citizens for a Better Way
Camarillo Vice Mayor Charlotte Craven
Bay Point Municipal Advisory Council Boardmember Gloria Magleby
Monterey/Santa Cruz Counties Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
Concerned Citizens Against the Casino (Hesperia)
Rohnert Park City Councilmember Pamela Stafford
Tri-Counties Central Labor Council AFL-CIO
Asian Pacific Islander Problem Gambling Task Force
Concerned Citizens for Pauma Valley
Assemblymember Mervyn M. Dymally
Fresno County Democratic Central Committee
Lake County Supervisor Rob Brown
Plumas County Republican Central Committee
San Francisco Women’s Political Committee
Hesperia City Councilmember Rita Vogler
Assemblymember Fiona Ma
Siskiyou Scars – Citizens Against Reservation Shopping
Assemblymember Mike Eng
Canyon Lake Councilmember John Zaitz
United Teachers Los Angeles Vice President Joshua Pechthalt
Dehesa Valley Community Council (El Cajon)
Friends of Amador County
International Longshore and Warehouse Union, Local 54 (Stockton)
Jamul Action Committee
Singley Hill Homeowners (Loleta)
Sonoma County Democratic Party
Sacramento – Sierra’s Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
Imperial County Supervisor Gary Wyatt
12th Assembly District Chinese American Democratic Club President Lawrence Yee
Napa-Solano Building Trades Council AFL-CIO
Stonewall Democratic Club
Wildcat Canyon Conservancy (Lakeside)
No Casino in Plymouth
San Francisco Democratic Party
Old Barona Road Association (Lakeside)
NICOS Chinese Health Coalition Executive Director Kent Woo
United Auto Workers, Local 2865 (Santa Barbara)
Orange County Communities Organized for Responsible Development (OCCORD)
Temecula/Murrieta Open Space Preservation Organization
Alameda County Democratic Party
Loma Linda Mayor Robert H. Christman
International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, Local 1546 (Lodi)
Shasta County Democratic Central Committee
National Asian Pacific American Bar Association Former Board of Governors Member Curt Namba
Palm Springs Progressive Community Coalition
Win or Quit (San Diego)
Lake Democratic Club Chair Rebecca L. Curry
Labor Council for Latin American Advancement, Sacramento Chapter
Asian Pacific Islander Problem Gambling Task Force Chair Diane Ujiiye
Residents Against Gaming Expansion (El Cajon)
El Cerrito Democratic Club
Progressive Jewish Alliance
Rohnert Park Families
Sonoma, Mendocino & Lake Counties Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
State Senator Leland Yee
California Democratic Party Native American Caucus Member Alicia Castillo
Russian River Property Owners Association
State Senator Carole Migden
Los Rios City College Retired Professor Paula P. Aron
California Democratic Party Statewide Asian Pacific Islander Caucus Chair Julie D. Soo
Former Plumas County Supervisor Don Clark
Asian Pacific Legislative Staff Caucus Founder Maeley Tom
United Steelworkers, Local 474 (Clovis)
Zeitgeist Books
West Bank Homeowners Association (Blythe)
Chinese American Political Action Committee Former President Dr. Ivy Lee
Former Oakland Planning Commissioner Clinton Killian
San Francisco Building & Construction Trades Council AFL-CIO
Rohnert Park Planning Commission Chair Susan Adams
Anita Cook, RN
additionally, I would like to see the racetracks stay open













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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:49 PM
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13. Do not forget the Vegas Casinos who are pouring MILLIONS into the state
That is why I went looking... for this household union issues are critical since this is a union household.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:51 PM
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14. Do you really want I10 to become "the strip"?
from Banning to Coachella? Also I would like to see horseracing continue in California. 17k SLOT MACHINES.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:03 PM
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17. Them are two different issues
but labor is no longer one of them

;-)
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:55 PM
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15. – Propositions 94, 95, 96 that could block new gambling agreements, or
Those props ok the Casinos and benefit those four tribes. I'm getting confused
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:04 PM
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18. According to the california voting guide, they will have to spread the wealth
around
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:52 PM
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16. I voting "yes".
It's sort of a "pox on both their houses" situation, but I favor the tribes over Las Vegas and the race-tracks, so reluctantly ...
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:54 PM
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19. I already voted NO on all four
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:18 PM
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20. I voted NO as well
anytime I see anything on a ballot with the word INDIAN on it I always vote NO.

They've sucked Indian people for all they can get already. Enough is enough!

And I say this as a person that just might happen to know being "one of them".

:argh:

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