What Is WRONG With The People Up There?

[tucsonlib]

The good news: President Obama will be delivering a commencement address at ASU on May 13th.

The nauseating news: Against tradition, the President will not be receiving an honorary degree from the university. Why? You're not gonna believe it. And it appears from the comments that most Denizens of Maricopa approve of this pathetic, childish insult to President Obama.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/50396

I used to be proud to tell people that I hailed from Arizona - Home of the Grand Canyon, the Sonoran Desert and Mo Udall. Now, thanks the a massive influx of undesirable immigrants (No, not the Mexicans, who are, by and large, pretty good folk); but the right-wing rabble who have turned Arizona into the Land of Kyl, McCain and Arpaio.


At least they tend to keep their hordes well north of here. (Here being Baja, Arizona - Land of the Free, Home of the Sane.....)

[Kali]

1. too much humidity from the artificial lakes

causes brain rot - AKA repukinism

[tucsonlib]

2. And Let Us Not Forget

All those LAWN SPRINKLERS!

[northtempe]

3. ASU doesn't give hororary degrees to sitting pols

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/50586

[tucsonlib]

4. Oh Yeah, THAT Makes Sense

When their original excuse - that Obama hadn't accomplished enough to qualify sparks widespread outrage and disbelief, they come up with an alternate explanation - one nearly as lame, idiotic and unsupportable as the first one.

Why can't they just own up and confess:

"He stole the election from our favorite son Johnny. We're poor losers; we have no ethics and no shame. But we're still the schoolyard bullies, so he can't have our prestigious honorary degree! That'll teach him! Besides, he's way too uppity, and probably a godless Muslim, too...."

:banghead: :puke:

[Ken Burch]

6. Like they didn't give one to sitting pol Barry Goldwater in 1961?

n/t.

[marybourg]

5. Don't confuse the adolescents who make a hobby of

wingnut responses on the Republic website with "most denizens of Maricopa" county. And I think your description of the history of AZ is incorrect. Remember Goldwater? He's the pol who most people connect with AZ. Are you old enough to remember his motto: "In your heart you know he's right". (That meant right about segregation.) The influx we've had in recent years has been of N.Y.ers and Californians, more recently still, Oregonians, hardly right-wing rabble. That's why we're more purple than red for the first time since statehood. :hi:

[tucsonlib]

7. Yes, I Remember Goldwater

but although he voted against the Civil Rights Act, I don't believe that slogan was alluding to his views on segregation. He was no George Wallace when it came to racial issues. And, to his credit, he despised Nixon.

I would love to believe your claim that those yahoos are not representative of the majority of voters in Maricopa County, but as long as Arpaio, Kyl and McCain continue to win re-election by large margins I fear you don't have a very convincing case.

You are correct in one regard - Maricopa County has been a right-wing stronghold for a lot longer than I casually suggested in the OP. Just as Pima County has voted Democratic for as long as anyone can remember.

So, when the Sovereign State of Baja Arizona is finally established and recognized; when on some moonless night you are no longer able to resist the sweet smell of liberty wafting up from the south; I trust that on that night you will find the courage to Ford The Mighty Gila! And we Bajastanians, skinny-dipping along the opposite shore, will be there to welcome you and pull you to freedom!!

http://www.bandersnatch.com/bajaz.htm

:party: :toast: :bounce: :grouphug: :pals:

[marybourg]

8. I actually became quite fond of the *later* Goldwater.

After his 2nd marriage and subsequent mellowing, I had occasion to visit his home and was very moved by the definite lack of ostentation. Also at his house there were still signs of the efforts he had made during the Vietnam War to serve as a communications conduit between soldiers and their families back in the States at great personal expense.

While I don't think he was an actual bigot himself, even in his younger, more fiery days, he did pander to the bigots in his party and the campaign slogan he used which I quoted above was meant to be understood exactly as I understood it then. And - yes he despised Nixon (the enemy of my enemy is my friend?) but he also despised Lyndon Johnson and later, (Gov.)Bill Clinton.

[drmeow]

9. Arpaio is no longer getting

wide margins. If the Dems had a serious candidate to run against him, he'd be out. But from what I heard, Saban is pretty damn corrupt himself.

There is hope for us but it needs to be nurtured. The Dems really need to get to work in this county.

[Liberal_Christian]

12. ???????? What part of Maricopa County are you from?

Almost nine out of ten different people I talk to everyday are full of baseless right-wing talking points that have no realistic or factual grounding whatsoever. I'm speaking primarily about the Fountain Hills/ Scottsdale area but even when I venture out, it's everywhere in this area.

Listen, I don't think it's ever right to deal in absolution and over-generalization but there's a reason we (maricopa) have the legislators that we do -the voting base, and I think it's no over-generalization to say that "most denizens of maricopa county" are far-right and far gone (intellectually).

Furthermore, if there is a way to find out the states in which most who relocate to Arizona hail from, I would be more than happy to read the literature but as far as most of them being from CA and NY; I believe you couldn't be more inaccurate. Look at the license plates of the cars in front of you you see everyday. Most of them are Wisconsin, Vermont, Wyoming, Minnesota, Montana,... most of them conservative states with a colder climate. Very rarely does anyone see a california or New York.

[Liberal_Christian]

10. WOW. You stated what I've been saying for years.

I was born and raised in Arizona and have lived in the valley area (Fountain Hills/Scottsdale) my entire life and cannot be more ashamed of the selfishness-based republican legislation but also the half-wit drones they call a voting base. In my area you hear a lot of people open up their mouths to spew nothing but baseless Fox News/Hate Radio talking points. They don't realize that anything of any substance proves their angry symbolistic ideology DEAD-WRONG like American history, the rest of the industrialized world, the New Testament, and even economics 101. Be happy you live in Tucson; you'd go crazy down here.

[Liberal_Christian]

11. quick side note...

ASU said the honorary scholarship is for those who have accomplished something extraordinary and the reason they did NOT give one to Obama was because it was too soon to tell if he had accomplished anything yet... I guess graduating top of his class -magna cume laude from Harvard University, president of the Harvard Law Review, and, oh gee I don't know, first African American President of a country that has a history of oppressing African Americans are all things that such an """""esteemed"""" University like AS fucking U doesn't find too worthwhile. One has to wonder if John McCain would have underwent the same treatment.