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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:44 PM
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VP DEBATE: Cheney KO'ed...By GOP - John Nichols
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"You're not credible on Iraq," a scowling Cheney told Edwards minutes into this year's only vice presidential debate. The man whose imprint on the planning and implementation of the administration's Middle Eastern military misadventure has been far firmer than that of President Bush ripped into Kerry and Edwards repeatedly in the heated first half hour of the debate. "These are two individuals who have been for the war when the headlines were good and against it when their poll ratings were bad," Cheney said of the Democratic ticket, after speculating that pressure from Democratic primary rival Howard Dean -- as opposed to mounting death tolls and a general sense that the occupation had degenerated into a quagmire -- offered the only real explanation for why the Democratic ticket is now critical of the administration's approach to the war.

But, this time, the vice president had trouble peddling the big lie. Edwards trumped Cheney's spin by unleashing what may well be the most powerful weapon in the Democratic arsenal this year: Republicans.

"(It's) not just me that sees the mess in Iraq. There are Republican leaders, like John McCain, like Richard Lugar, like Chuck Hagel, who have said Iraq is a mess and it's getting worse," Edwards said, referencing three senior Republican senators. "And when they were asked why, Richard Lugar said because of the incompetence of the administration."

Edwards hit Cheney where it hurts. Just as Cheney warps the truth beyond recognition when he spins his fantasies about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and supposed links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, so he also misleads when he claims that debates about Iraq break down along partisan lines.

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Link: http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1880

Hit 'em where it hurts... over and over and over and...

:bounce::kick::bounce:
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:55 PM
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1. You know why the arguement that Kerry/Edwards are flip flopping on the war
is not helping the GOP. Because so many people went through the same feelings. Many Americans originally supported the resolution (some even the invasion), but then could see that this whole thing is a royal screw up. When Bush/Cheny drive home the idea that they are wavering, they are insulting many Americans who felt the same way about the war.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:03 PM
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2. GREAT Point !!!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:11 PM
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3. I thought that when he said it last night.
I mean, most people supported the war when the poll numbers were good and then began questioning it when the poll numbers started slipping. Isn't that the definition of popular opinion polls?

It was a silly thing for Cheney to say.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:15 PM
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4. Yep. Joe & Jane America also "flip flopped" on the war...
and they might also "flip flip" on voting for Bush again.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:30 PM
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5. Wow... Nichols Was Just On Franken !!!
Talk about timing, LOL!!!

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