Tulsa, Oklahoma = Freeperville, USA?

[Senior citizen]

Most of the polls I've seen show an overwhelmingly positive response for John Edwards. FAUX News didn't, but I would expect that of them. And then there's Tulsa, where Cheney got about twice as many votes. I've seen a few posts about other (small) polls that were freeped. But, just as I never watch FAUX, I don't think I'll ever go to Tulsa.

Anyway, polls don't tell you much. More than 90% of the Kerry/Edwards voters I know, don't even have computers. They're the elderly, low-income people at my senior center. Some are (legal) immigrants, many are veterans, quite a few are people of color, and I only know of 2 B/C voters in the whole crowd, but there could be a few more who don't talk about it. They know they'd get shouted down by people concerned about Social Security, Medicare, prescription drug coverage (they think the card thing is a scam), Section 8 housing, Meals on Wheels, and places like the senior center itself, which has repeatedly seen its funding cut as the feds cut funding to the state, the state cut funding to the counties, and the county cut funding to social services. They may not vote online, but they intend to vote on election day. Someone from the ROV even came to the senior center to help everyone register who hadn't already done so. So when you see a Kerry/Edwards landslide in an online poll, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[trotsky]

1. I think Bartcop can attest to that.

Knuckledrag, Oklahoma is how he has referred to it.

http://www.bartcop.com

[rwork]

7. Don't forget the hate radio

Kvoo has M.Savage, Sean Hannity, B.O'Reilly,R.Lim.These are on 24 hrs., a day.

[Jon8503]

2. Thanks for that comment. You are also doing good work. I

think and of course "hope" that there are a lot of closet republicans that when they go into the booth will vote Kerry and Edwards.

I see that at work, they don't talk about it much but I think the only hardcore solid republican support they are talking about for Bush is the far far right wing neos and very wealthy. These are the ones who don't care about anyone other than themselves. They are willing to cut out entitlements for seniors, the poor, jeopardize the future of the environment, social security for their own children and grand children and other youth. They have more than anyone else and still want more for themselves. These are a lock for Bush but I think the more moderate repubs are taking a look at Kerry.

Have a great day.

[Ilsa]

3. A friend of mine from OK City has told me that most of eastern

Oklahoma is very backwards, and to be careful driving through to go backpacking in the Ozarks. In the smaller towns, he won't wear a suit driving through. Said there is backwoods/Deliverance-type of violence there.

I've only been to Tulsa once.

[Burma Jones]

4. Tulsa is disgusting

It looks like Houston, only smaller and insignificent. All the people I've met there (including relatives) are about as thick headed and just plain stupid as you're going to get. It has churches that look like Wal-Mart. The best restaurants in town would have trouble competing with Denny's. It is the home of Oral Roberts.

[Nevernose]

5. More churches in Tulsa, per capita, than anywhere in the world

There are more churches per person in Tulsa, most of a fundamentalist stripe, than anywhere else in the world, at least according to some HBO documentary I saw a few years ago.

[RebelOne]

6. And also Denver.

Last I looked, Edwards was way behind.