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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:28 PM
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Did Cheney do better than JE?
Edited on Tue Oct-05-04 09:29 PM by dieharderdem
I think he did great brought up all the point 90 min. would allow. His goofs made him look real and lovable.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:29 PM
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1. kick
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:30 PM
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2. Cheney is out of energy. It's passed his bedtime.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:31 PM
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3. Do you mean Edwards was real?
Or Cheney?

Personally, on a substantive level, I think it's pretty close.

On style I think Edwards won.

Funny that the Republican sounds like the policy wonk.

dvid
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:31 PM
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4. Cheney lied well and Edwards told the truth well.
And Gwen lost it.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:32 PM
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5. Edwards did GREAT against the lying sack of shit
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:32 PM
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6. I consider it a draw
Both came out and did what they had to do. Cheney is good at this thing, because he has the ultimate poker face, and gets down to business.

Not that his business is good though. But I expected Cheney to bring his A game, and he did. Neither outshined the other, IMO. They were both adequate.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:37 PM
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10. I am watching with a Republican friend, who just said it was a draw....
but who last week said Kerry's first debate was a SLAM DUNK. This registered Republican says he will not vote for Bush this time around.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:33 PM
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7. "It's hard to know where to start"
Cheney is pulling out stock phrases
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:33 PM
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8. Cheney can tell some real good lies.
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:35 PM
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9. Cheney was pretty lame
seemed nervous all the time, to me. I thought JE did very well.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:37 PM
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11. SAY IT LOUD EDWARDS WON
Lying is not a valid debate method.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:37 PM
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12. Cheney came off so badly.. so angry. n/t
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:37 PM
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13. I don't think either hit the home run like Thursday
We'll have to wait and see what the public thinks. But I don't think any damage was done.

But I am now convinced that C* is a complete and total asshole.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 10:20 PM
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14. Edwards Barely won
I'd say he won enough because he did force Chaney to avoid questions where he didn't want to, but he was in a situation he was comfortable with.

On the issues, Edwards Trumped Chaney completely.

On the presentation they both were very good, Edwards looked like he was able to handle both sitting and standing equally well though hew would have preferred to stand.

Chaney's facial features on C-Span 2 when Edwards was talking looked as though he was sucking on a sour lemon going through a number of grim faces, yet that is the kind of face he gives toward people from what I've ever seen, the permasneer.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:27 AM
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15. Yes, I think Cheney did better.
At sucking.
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